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Tesla used to be Edison's "intern" but, soon Tesla surpassed the master. Edison once offered Tesla a butt load of money to invent something and when Tesla did, Edison said he was joking and wasn't serious. Edison was a mean and cruel man. He used to electrocute animals to scare people away from Tesla's AC electricity. I would not be surprised if Edison took credit for some of Tesla's inventions.

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I don't know if there's any ARM chips that are actually this small when made into a full PC, there's certainly microcontrollers and the like at similar sizes but the point is that (I believe) x86 or ARM are easier to program for, especially with this apparently running Linux. Intel even had this being used for a relatively simple use in their demo too. (Monitoring a baby's health and displaying on a coffee cup if the baby needed attention.)

you don't need a full pc for such a task just circuit/circuit board. in fact i think this device already exist.
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I don't know if there's any ARM chips that are actually this small when made into a full PC, there's certainly microcontrollers and the like at similar sizes but the point is that (I believe) x86 or ARM are easier to program for, especially with this apparently running Linux. Intel even had this being used for a relatively simple use in their demo too. (Monitoring a baby's health and displaying on a coffee cup if the baby needed attention.)

I wouldn't say ARM and x86 are easier to program with at the same layer... It just might appear to because we have fully fledged OSes that basically take care of about everything on those architectures, while you don't have any OS for a PIC MCU or an ATMEGA/ATTiny, hence you must take care of everything while programming for it.

For simple tasks (controlling lights, temperature of a fridge, basic things like that) the educated hobbyist would never use a beast the likes of an Edison, or a Raspberry Pi, or something like that.

I don't know about others, but it would hurt me badly in the feels to use such a brutally powerful platform for a task that the cheapest and lowliest of the PIC 10F series could achieve just as good tongue.gif
   
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RIP Raspberry pi?

No, the attraction of those is that they are super cheap and cheerful. They have a huge community of modders around it and a well established base in schools and universities

when i say cheap mine cost 37$ with an 8gb SD card with NOOBS installed + case included

runs OpenElec (just) fine. It does need a bit more power but if you start to overclock them up another 200mhz then you have to add custom heatsinks. So temperature and load power becomes the issue and you have to use the wall wart supply. However if you don't OC then The other benefit is that they run from some TV's USB ports for power so they can be installed extremely discretely and use almost no power with a small hdmi lead to screen giving you and opensource smart-er TV
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Looks like a custom PS1 memory card tongue.gif
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I wouldn't say ARM and x86 are easier to program with at the same layer... It just might appear to because we have fully fledged OSes that basically take care of about everything on those architectures, while you don't have any OS for a PIC MCU or an ATMEGA/ATTiny, hence you must take care of everything while programming for it.

For simple tasks (controlling lights, temperature of a fridge, basic things like that) the educated hobbyist would never use a beast the likes of an Edison, or a Raspberry Pi, or something like that.

I don't know about others, but it would hurt me badly in the feels to use such a brutally powerful platform for a task that the cheapest and lowliest of the PIC 10F series could achieve just as good tongue.gif

THERE WE GO! That's what i was trying to say.
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you don't need a full pc for such a task just circuit/circuit board. in fact i think this device already exist.

You don't need anything more than a dual core Atom to run Office, that didn't stop my University getting i5s.
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I wouldn't say ARM and x86 are easier to program with at the same layer... It just might appear to because we have fully fledged OSes that basically take care of about everything on those architectures, while you don't have any OS for a PIC MCU or an ATMEGA/ATTiny, hence you must take care of everything while programming for it.

For simple tasks (controlling lights, temperature of a fridge, basic things like that) the educated hobbyist would never use a beast the likes of an Edison, or a Raspberry Pi, or something like that.

I don't know about others, but it would hurt me badly in the feels to use such a brutally powerful platform for a task that the cheapest and lowliest of the PIC 10F series could achieve just as good tongue.gif

It's more that there's tonnes of programmers who are used to x86 and ARM from desktop/mobile programming compared to microcontrollers than anything, honestly.

Not to mention, nearly every desktop/laptop PC is mostly underutilized as it is...I'd rather have unused cycles than lag any day. Even Intel had this used for a relatively simple task.
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If I eat it, will I gain it's powers?
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Just the naming scheme piss's me off, Telsa > Edison. Edison was one of the worst people to ever exist and probably hindered scientific research more then helped, dont believe me go read about how tesla had set up basically global free electricity using the earths electromagnetic field.

As the earth spins in orbit it produces a massive amount of electricity, think of a windmill but in he size of a planet.
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