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i have a phenom II X 6 1055t but i just feel as if its getting old and want to upgrade however all the current cpus i can honestly consider are quad cores with hyperthreads acting like octo's.

i have a genuine hex a core atm, and love the way it runs most of the time but the clock speeds are just lagging and oc doesnt seem to help....

im close to going to an i5 4770k but have had amd cpu's for years, (phenom x3 that unlocked to X4)

any recs????
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i have a phenom II X 6 1055t but i just feel as if its getting old and want to upgrade however all the current cpus i can honestly consider are quad cores with hyperthreads acting like octo's.

i have a genuine hex a core atm, and love the way it runs most of the time but the clock speeds are just lagging and oc doesnt seem to help....

im close to going to an i5 4770k but have had amd cpu's for years, (phenom x3 that unlocked to X4)

any recs????
All the AMD 8 cores has 8 cores not quad cores with hyperthreads .
The main thing you have to know is that Intel uses Thermal Paste between the die and IHS on the i7 4770k .
I have delidded an i5 and i7 some far and the thermal paste was dried out.
The FX-83**/9*** @ 5.0ghz and overall performance is between a i5 4670k @ 4.4ghz and i7 4770k @ 4.4ghz.
So an i7 4770k will be the better cpu overall.
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i used to have a fx4100 when they first came out and i bought it under the assumption (from the marketing that was every where) that it was a quad core however when i got it home and then realised that it was a dual core with hyperhtreads, i was wouned especially as it then went on to bottleneck my hd 6870, but are you telling me that the new piledrivers are in fact actual OCTO's and not like the FX 4100, 4150, 6100, 6150, 8100 or 8150?

if this is the case then i might look into the fx 8320 or 8350..........

at least then i wont need a new mobo as well as cpu.......well new gpu is an obvious thing but not until after ive played watch dogs.......dont think the mrs will be too pleased if i go "WASTING" (pfft) too much money in one go..
Edited by skolzden - 1/7/14 at 1:46am
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Depends on you which way you go. I7-4770k is better in single threaded apps and better on power consumption. Fx-8350 is a better clocker for the most part. To really get the most out of the 4770k you would want to delid it and that voids the warranty. More apps and games use less cores but with the newer consoles out, newer games will be ported over using more cores, either way its more of apples to oranges, unless you just go big and get the 4930k.
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i used to have a fx4100 when they first came out and i bought it under the assumption (from the marketing that was every where) that it was a quad core however when i got it home and then realised that it was a dual core with hyperhtreads, i was wouned especially as it then went on to bottleneck my hd 6870, but are you telling me that the new piledrivers are in fact actual OCTO's and not like the FX 4100, 4150, 6100, 6150, 8100 or 8150?

if this is the case then i might look into the fx 8320 or 8350..........

at least then i wont need a new mobo as well as cpu.......well new gpu is an obvious thing but not until after ive played watch dogs.......dont think the mrs will be too pleased if i go "WASTING" (pfft) too much money in one go..
I'm telling you there is no hyperhtreads in any FX chips.
FX-4*** has 4 cores.
FX-6*** has 6 cores.
FX-8*** has 8 cores.
FX-9*** has 8 cores.
There is hotfix for Windows 7, but Windows 8/8.1 has other problems with the FX chips.
Window 7 will see a FX-4*** as 2 cores and 4 threads, but it does have 4 cores. Windows see each module as a core for some strange reason.

EDIT
Each module has 2 cores in it.
Edited by dixson01974 - 1/7/14 at 2:14am
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AMD chips like the FX-8350 do not have 8 stand alone cores. the cores are in pairs and share some of the same resources.

As you can clearly see the "cores" are in 4 distinct pairs. It's basically comparable to an I5 in terms of performance for the most part.

If you're gaming at 1080p it's probably a good idea to look at upgrading you 460 to something like a 660 or higher, or 7870 or higher.

Also SSDs make computers respond WAY faster. They can be had on sale relatively cheap.
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i decided to take a look into this as im curious and tbf i dont really know too much about this FX hardware but i found this on wiki.....

This technology is informally called CMT>>>>> (Clustered Multi-Thread)<<<<<<<< and formally called "module" by AMD.

In terms of hardware complexity and functionality, this "module" is equal to a dual-core processor in its integer power (each thread having a fully independent integer core).

it is similar to a single core processor that has the SMT ability, which can create a dual threads processor but with the power of one (each thread shares the resources of the module with the other thread) in terms of floating point performance

everywhere i search it keeps saying the same thing 4 cores 8 threads, 3 cores, 6 threads
why cant they just keep it simple.......?.
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i decided to take a look into this as im curious and tbf i dont really know too much about this FX hardware but i found this on wiki.....

This technology is informally called CMT>>>>> (Clustered Multi-Thread)<<<<<<<< and formally called "module" by AMD.

In terms of hardware complexity and functionality, this "module" is equal to a dual-core processor in its integer power (each thread having a fully independent integer core).

it is similar to a single core processor that has the SMT ability, which can create a dual threads processor but with the power of one (each thread shares the resources of the module with the other thread) in terms of floating point performance

everywhere i search it keeps saying the same thing 4 cores 8 threads, 3 cores, 6 threads
why cant they just keep it simple.......?.
Windows for some strange reason sees each module as a core. Each module has 2 cores in it.
So with this being said.
Windows will see this.
FX-4*** 2 cores (2 module) with 4 threads, but it has 4 physical cores.
FX-6*** 3 cores (3 module) with 6 threads, but it has 6 physical cores.
FX-8*** 4 cores (4 module) with 8 threads, but it has 8 physical cores.
FX-9*** 4 cores (4 module) with 8 threads, but it has 8 physical cores.
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i intend to upgrade to gtx 660 at some point but the issue im having is that most of the cards ie gtx 5--- and some of the gtx 6--- arent as good as my gtx 460...

as for ssd ive been waiting 7 days for delievry of 120gb

i have a 6870 thats a bit better in a second pc but asfar as it goes atm im happy with the 460 i might however sli it cus i can get another 460 for under £40 off ebay, but lifes life.
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If your at 1080p you need more than 1gb of vram. Adding another card does not increase the effective vram.
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