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Could you post result about 1080p and 1440p since 4K has what? 0.00001% of the market?
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Could you post result about 1080p and 1440p since 4K has what? 0.00001% of the market?

The 290X was built for 4K gaming. That and mantle were their calling cards for these gpus.
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Well...not sure anybody else would come to the conclusion that one card is better than the other when you compare one with an aftermarket cooler vs one with stock, then only use a single game to base this conclusion on; one that AMD spent roughly 8 million dollars on its partnership and optimizations

If you wanted a level playing ground, here's the Gigabyte 780 Ti OC

At 4k....
BF4 - tie
Hitman - tie
Bioshock - 780 Ti 19% faster
MOH WF - 780 Ti 9% faster
Tomb R - 780 Ti 7% faster
Metro LL - 780 Ti 11% faster
Crysis 3 - 780 Ti 4% faster

Temps?
~Same 290X 84C vs 780 Ti 83C (completely based on what the target is)

Noise?
290X - 42dBA (as noisy as SLI 570's)
780 Ti - 37dBA (as silent as a AMD 7770)

Power?
290X - 287 watts
780 Ti - 264 watts (8.7% less)

Overclocking?
R290X: "Overall we have been able to get another 5% maybe 10% performance out of this graphics card."

780 Ti: "Overall we have been able to get another 10% performance out of this graphics card."

Gigabyte 290X OC = $700
Gigabyte 780 Ti OC =$730 (4% more for better performance in nearly every category)

Note: This is all based on the current pricing of the Gigabyte 290X OC. Had it been at it's normal price of ~550-570, THEN this comparison would fall in favor of its perf/value (not sheer performance)
nice comparison. but still, given the price, i would still take a gtx 780 classified over either of these for almost $200 less. i still can't believe the price gouging from the amd side is going on. if this 290x was priced more like the release prices, it would be a no-brainer. the truly sad thing is that the giga 290x is sold out at that price on newegg.
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you are compareing a card that can go up to 1150mhz ( that is 200Mhz ) to a card that only overclocked to 40mhz ?

Realistic overclocking results...


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Originally Posted by CULLEN View Post

Could you post result about 1080p and 1440p since 4K has what? 0.00001% of the market?

I'll do 1440p since that's what I have, and these are the top of the line GPU's.

Hitman - 290X 6% faster
Tomb R - 780 Ti 11% faster
MOH WF - 780 Ti 18% faster
Bioshock - 780 Ti 27% faster
Battlefield 4 - 290X 11% faster
Metro LL - 780 Tii 10% faster
Crysis 3 - 780 Ti 14% faster
3D Mark 11 Extreme - 780 Ti 21% faster
Firestrike (GPU scores) - 780 Ti 11.7%

I suppose dropping from 4k did make a difference...

Had the 290X stayed at normal prices, this wouldn't matter.

Ultimately though, just replying to mboner
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At 4k....
BF4 - tie
Hitman - tie
Bioshock - 780 Ti 19% faster
MOH WF - 780 Ti 9% faster
Tomb R - 780 Ti 7% faster
Metro LL - 780 Ti 11% faster
Crysis 3 - 780 Ti 4% faster

Note: This is all based on the current pricing of the Gigabyte 290X OC. Had it been at it's normal price of ~550-570, THEN this comparison would fall in favor of its perf/value (not sheer performance)
Ultimately though, just replying to mboner

Well since your replying to me, i would just say that over here you can pick up the reference r9 290x for $659 while the 780ti cheapest price is $819, saving $160 by going with the 290x, meaning that even if those numbers you posted are definitive then the 290x is still the better buy if you know how to adjust a fan curve.

FTR i don't think any one review site is definitive and here's a couple that disagree with your post.

Metro last light- 780ti 64.5 fps.
290x 69.2 fps.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/11/11/geforce_gtx_780_ti_vs_radeon_r9_290x_4k_gaming/6#.Us_OxbTiNJU

Crysis 3- 780ti 42.7 fps
290x 42.5 fps

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/11/11/geforce_gtx_780_ti_vs_radeon_r9_290x_4k_gaming/3#.Us_QILTiNJU

Far cry 3 are even within the margin of error, and tomb raider is better with a ti by 2 fps or something.
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Different GPU's. Stock vs stock (in which case 780 TI has PLENTY of OC head room)

Just comparing the gigabyte 780's since that's what this was review was about. Unless you're putting a 290X under water, I wouldn't touch the reference cooler....nobody should, it's such a slap to the face for them to release such a crappy cooler; hindering both the experience and the potential of the GPU.

Not sure where you live, but 780 Ti's are no where near that expensive here. It's a $30 difference between the two here.

Also, in regards to your other benchmarks, you gotta keep an eye out on those comparisons.

Metro Last Light is playing with physx: ON with the 780 Ti.

You have to go to the bottom for the apples to apples comparison, in which the 780 Ti (stock vs stock models) is 9.4% faster.

As for the other games, at their 4k, it is pretty much within margin of error. But those are reference modes (ewww lol)

Sucks that 780 Ti's are so expensive wherever you are.

It'd be nice if we were back to the $500 "tank" prices frown.gif

I actually think the 290X Gigabyte windforce is a great great card. It's what the original 290X should've been. It's just the current explosion in price puts it in comparison with GPU's that were previously out of the equation smile.gif
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Well since your replying to me, i would just say that over here you can pick up the reference r9 290x for $659 while the 780ti cheapest price is $819, saving $160 by going with the 290x, meaning that even if those numbers you posted are definitive then the 290x is still the better buy if you know how to adjust a fan curve.

FTR i don't think any one review site is definitive and here's a couple that disagree with your post.

Metro last light- 780ti 64.5 fps.
290x 69.2 fps.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/11/11/geforce_gtx_780_ti_vs_radeon_r9_290x_4k_gaming/6#.Us_OxbTiNJU

Crysis 3- 780ti 42.7 fps
290x 42.5 fps

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/11/11/geforce_gtx_780_ti_vs_radeon_r9_290x_4k_gaming/3#.Us_QILTiNJU

Far cry 3 are even within the margin of error, and tomb raider is better with a ti by 2 fps or something.

You can guy the 780 TI for 699. I dont know where you are getting your numbers.
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You can guy the 780 TI for 699. I dont know where you are getting your numbers.

Not everyone lives in the USA, bro.rolleyes.gif
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Not everyone lives in the USA, bro.rolleyes.gif

I know this but when his profile doesnt say and nits a US based site and linking US sites, then I'm gonna make that assumption.
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Different GPU's. Stock vs stock (in which case 780 TI has PLENTY of OC head room)

Just comparing the gigabyte 780's since that's what this was review was about. Unless you're putting a 290X under water, I wouldn't touch the reference cooler....nobody should, it's such a slap to the face for them to release such a crappy cooler; hindering both the experience and the potential of the GPU.

Yeah, that's fair enough about the gigabyte, the rest is just opinion though, i'm glad they released the stock ones at such a low price, i have no issue running my admittedly 290 (not 290x) @ 59% fan speed and not going over 87 degrees while staying quieter than my previous 7970 by a fair bit as well.
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Not sure where you live, but 780 Ti's are no where near that expensive here. It's a $30 difference between the two here.

In Australia. I wish they were closer in price as well cos i would have had a decision to make then, but Nvidia cards obviously sell more, stock goes quicker so they charge more. If they were evenly priced i would have been 50/50 about which way to go, having said that my main concern is bf4 and even with just the possibility of mantle improving things slightly i would have still gone with AMD i think.
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Also, in regards to your other benchmarks, you gotta keep an eye out on those comparisons.

Metro Last Light is playing with physx: ON with the 780 Ti.

You have to go to the bottom for the apples to apples comparison, in which the 780 Ti (stock vs stock models) is 9.4% faster.

As for the other games, at their 4k, it is pretty much within margin of error. But those are reference modes (ewww lol)

I did miss the fact that physx was on, my bad.


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You can guy the 780 TI for 699. I dont know where you are getting your numbers.

Would be nice if i could. I said "over here" meaning where i live.
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