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ok I can print a preview of the page but how do get it on ocn ?

 

After putting everything in the calculator, click "Calculate" and then click this after that:

 

PSUcalcPrintButton.png 

 

On the web page that this will generate, copy the text and paste it in this thread.


Edited by TwoCables - 1/7/14 at 10:06pm
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Perhaps the most important settings to set are these, for the most reasonably accurate readings for a system like yours:

 

Motherboard: Regular - Desktop

 

CPU Utilization (TDP): 90%

 

USB: Don't enter anything for the keyboard and mouse because these are already accounted for. They're built into the calculator.

 

Fans: Unless your fans can pull more than 8W per fan, you have Regular fans.

 

System Load: 75% (80% and above is better for Folding)

 

Capacitor Aging: "- Select". Don't select anything because with a PSU like yours, capacitor aging is not an issue at all because the capacitors are just too good for that.

 

Using these guidelines should give you much more accurate results. Although, bear in mind that these calculators can never truly be accurate. It's an estimation, nothing more and nothing less.

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After putting everything in the calculator, click "Calculate" and then click this after that:

PSUcalcPrintButton.png 

On the web page that this will generate, copy the text and paste it in this thread.
I did do what you are telling me to but when the page that says print comes up i click my mouse and no icons appear so how can I paste ? when I click print a white page appears with my psu requirements . when I am on that page I left click my mouse and no icons appear
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I did do what you are telling me to but when the page that says print comes up i click my mouse and no icons appear so how can I paste ? when I click print a white page appears with my psu requirements . when I am on that page I left click my mouse and no icons appear

 

What icons are you expecting? I don't understand what you're talking about. Just click & drag with your left mouse button to select the text. Then, with the text still selected, right-click the selected text. Then, choose "Copy". Then, paste it into a post on here.

 

Have you copy/pasted text before? That's what I'm asking you to do.

 

Or, if this is too hard, then do as you said before: type everything into a post on here manually, telling me everything that you entered.

 

Also, did you see what I said above? Here it is again:

 

Perhaps the most important settings to set are these, for the most reasonably accurate readings for a system like yours:

 

Motherboard: Regular - Desktop

 

CPU Utilization (TDP): 90%

 

USB: Don't enter anything for the keyboard and mouse because these are already accounted for. They're built into the calculator.

 

Fans: Unless your fans can pull more than 8W per fan, you have Regular fans.

 

System Load: 75% (80% and above is better for Folding)

 

Capacitor Aging: "- Select". Don't select anything because with a PSU like yours, capacitor aging is not an issue at all because the capacitors are just too good for that.

 

Using these guidelines should give you much more accurate results. Although, bear in mind that these calculators can never truly be accurate. It's an estimation, nothing more and nothing less.

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What icons are you expecting? I don't understand what you're talking about. Just click & drag with your left mouse button to select the text. Then, with the text still selected, right-click the selected text. Then, choose "Copy". Then, paste it into a post on here.

Have you copy/pasted text before? That's what I'm asking you to do.

Or, if this is too hard, then do as you said before: type everything into a post on here manually, telling me everything that you entered.

Also, did you see what I said above? Here it is again:


Perhaps the most important settings to set are these, for the most reasonably accurate readings for a system like yours:

Motherboard: Regular - Desktop

CPU Utilization (TDP): 90%

USB: Don't enter anything for the keyboard and mouse because these are already accounted for. They're built into the calculator.

Fans: Unless your fans can pull more than 8W per fan, you have Regular fans.

System Load: 75% (80% and above is better for Folding)

Capacitor Aging: "- Select". Don't select anything because with a PSU like yours, capacitor aging is not an issue at all because the capacitors are just too good for that.

Using these guidelines should give you much more accurate results. Although, bear in mind that these calculators can never truly be accurate. It's an estimation, nothing more and nothing less.
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...you just wasted your money. frown.gif You could have and should have purchased a good 650W PSU. It would maximize your efficiency and it would cost you a lot less money, like $100 less.

Anyway, which calculator did you use that said you need 900W?! That's just ridiculous.

(yes, I'm a little bit hurt that you didn't listen, that you believed some silly calculator instead)
I all ready ordered the cooler master v1000 . I did some searching on amazon I would have only saved $30 to $35 at most for buying a good quality power supply of lower watts
    
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I all ready ordered the cooler master v1000 . I did some searching on amazon I would have only saved $30 to $35 at most for buying a good quality power supply of lower watts

Orndorf,

No one here is trying to demean you or demonstrate their knowledge for the sake of it. TwoCables and Shilka are both extremely knowledgeable in the realm of power supplies, among other things. I will not restate the same arguments they have this thread, but I will say this: They want you to save money and purchase a quality unit with enough power for your system.

Enthusiast power supplies are made to run at 100% capacity 24/7 for the span of their 5 or 7 year warranty. That's why they were designed. If your system draws 650 watts and you plan to keep it exactly like it is, then you should buy a 650w power supply. Maybe a 750 if you plan on overvolting/etc.

Please help us help you and others. The PSU calculator you used is junk and has mislead hundreds of people into spending more than they should.
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I cant drag it it wont let me when I press left click nothing happens

 

I'm not asking you to click and drag the text around. I'm asking you to use the Click & Drag technique in order to highlight the text. Begin the Click & Drag technique using the Left mouse button near the beginning of the text on the top-left corner of the text to be copied. Continue the Click & Drag technique all the way to the bottom-right corner of the text to be copied. When you're done selecting the text (again, using the Click & Drag technique), you can release the left mouse button. Again, you're not dragging anything. You're selecting text and then you're copying it.

 

If that's too difficult, then just press Ctrl+A. Then, press Ctrl+C. Then, start a new reply in this thread and press Ctrl+V into a new post. It will be more of a mess, but I should be able to understand it.

 

Edit: When coachmark2 said "Maybe a 750 if you plan on overvolting/etc.", he's referring to overvolting video cards.

 

Edit #2: Here's a tutorial on how to highlight text that you wish to work with, such as when you want to copy it: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/cut-copy-and-paste-in-windows/#highlight

 

Here's how to copy text: http://www.bleepingcomputer.com/tutorials/cut-copy-and-paste-in-windows/#copy

 

When you want to paste the text here on OCN, I recommend just clicking somewhere inside of the message editor interface (the text box where you type your post), and then press Ctrl+V. You can try right-clicking and choosing "Paste", but the menu that appears when you right-click absolutely must be the usual menu that you see in your browser when you right-click inside of a text box.


Edited by TwoCables - 1/8/14 at 9:05am
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In the meantime, here is an estimate of your computer based entirely on what's in your signature. I had to make some guesses for a couple of things because there's a lot of information that's missing.

 

Stock:

 

orndorf77PSUstock.png 

 

Recommended wattage: 515W. Recommended +12V capacity: 38.5A, which is only 462W. You could power this with a good 520W PSU, as long as its +12V capacity is 480W, or 40A.

 

 

Overclocked:

 

CPU at 4.5 GHz, but the calculator is estimating 147W for this. It should be closer to 125W, but whatever. It's a PSU calculator on the internet. It's not accurate.

 

orndorf77PSUoverclocked.png 

 

Recommended wattage: 550W. Recommended +12V capacity: 41.4A, or 496.8W. You could power this with a good 550W PSU, as long as its +12V capacity is at least 42A, or 504W. Many of the better 550W PSUs have a +12V capacity that's very, very close to 550 (but not above 550W because that's impossible). If you want to overclock the 780s, then get a good 650W PSU. If you want to overvolt your 780s, then get a good 750W PSU at maximum.


Edited by TwoCables - 1/8/14 at 9:36am
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In the meantime, here is an estimate of your computer based entirely on what's in your signature. I had to make some guesses for a couple of things because there's a lot of information that's missing.

Stock:

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Recommended wattage: 515W. Recommended +12V capacity: 38.5A, which is only 462W. You could power this with a good 520W PSU, as long as its +12V capacity is 480W, or 40A.


Overclocked:

CPU at 4.5 GHz, but the calculator is estimating 147W for this. It should be closer to 125W, but whatever. It's a PSU calculator on the internet. It's not accurate.

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Recommended wattage: 550W. Recommended +12V capacity: 41.4A, or 496.8W. You could power this with a good 550W PSU, as long as its +12V capacity is at least 42A, or 504W. Many of the better 550W PSUs have a +12V capacity that's very, very close to 550 (but not above 550W because that's impossible). If you want to overclock the 780s, then get a good 650W PSU. If you want to overvolt your 780s, then get a good 750W PSU at maximum.
what cpu cooler did you put ? I put the cooler master v10 because its the closest cpu cooler to mine . the only components your missing is a asus xonar dx sound card and x2 140mm case fans
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