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So my HTPC is a bit slow, and I'm going to upgrade it by buying a new CPU (Intel i3 4130T) and some new motherboard. My current issue is that I have a very small case. So my question is if I can stay with my current case. I was considering going to a larger case and getting a micro atx board instead of the mini-itx. So if anyone knows of a CPU cooler that can fit in that tiny case, please lead me.
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I have an i3-3225 in a Lian Li PC Q-27 case that is passively cooled. I'm running the stock Intel cooler and it works just fine. Don't hear any fan noise at all after start up. this case only has 70mm clearance between the MoBo and PSU so there are not a lot of options out there and most are not any better than the stock cooler.
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I have an i3-3225 in a Lian Li PC Q-27 case that is passively cooled. I'm running the stock Intel cooler and it works just fine. Don't hear any fan noise at all after start up. this case only has 70mm clearance between the MoBo and PSU so there are not a lot of options out there and most are not any better than the stock cooler.

That case doesn't have a whole lot of air flow other than a tiny fan a the front, and the current fan on CPU. I will probably need something with a fan, or again, a new case. I was thinking a new silverstone would be nice, and could get a micro atx board in the to get a graphics card in the future, should I desire...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811163174
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The PCQ-27 has NO fan at all on the case. For HTPC it doesn't matter as there is very little heat generated while watching TV or taping shows.
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118036

I use this in a CM Elite 120, and it clears the powersupply by about 3-4 mm. It is solid copper, excepting the aluminum fin blocks on either side (see Newegg picture), and it keeps my A10 5800k at about 29c during light load and idle, and 57c in that tiny case after 2 hours of Battlefield 3. It also clears my memory and is fairly quiet. It also comes with a Zalman FanMate so you can link it into the CPU fans power loop, and use it to slowdown/speedup the fan.

Just for reference, I was using a different solid aluminum aftermarket heatsink before, and temps would idle at about 45c, and under gaming (Battlefield 3), they would climb climb climb until they hit 75-80c and the comp would thermal-shut-down at 80c (my setting is 80c because max recommended temp is 74c). It was a world of difference.

Zalman makes a few really fantastic SFF coolers.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118142
Zalman low profile, good for up to 120w TDP.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118127
Not sure the max wattage, but this is another low profile Zalman.
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Just for reference, I was using a different solid aluminum aftermarket heatsink before, and temps would idle at about 45c, and under gaming (Battlefield 3), they would climb climb climb until they hit 75-80c and the comp would thermal-shut-down at 80c (my setting is 80c because max recommended temp is 74c). It was a world of difference.

Zalman makes a few really fantastic SFF coolers.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118142
Zalman low profile, good for up to 120w TDP.

The most intensive thing I'll be doing with this is playing 1080P DTS content. No gaming other than the occasional flash game. I'm really liking that CPU heatsink though, uber low profile, and should be plenty short enough to keep inside my current case. I'll just have to make sure my new board has PWM fan connectors. Most do nowadays though don't they?
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I'll just have to make sure my new board has PWM fan connectors. Most do nowadays though don't they?
Yes, I don't know of any MoBo that doesn't.
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Other than the zalman, I believe this would fit as well.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608029

New question, I currently have a 80W pico psu, is it going to be heavy enough to run a i3 4130T (TDP is 35W)? I did some googling, but nothing gave me a definitive yes.

Current PSU: http://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-80-60W-power-kit

New option?: http://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-150-XT-102-power-kit
Edited by herkalurk - 1/9/14 at 12:17pm
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Originally Posted by herkalurk View Post

Other than the zalman, I believe this would fit as well.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608029

New option?: http://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-150-XT-102-power-kit

The Noctua would probably be fine to run the i3, but with bigger CPUs it heats up the core under load. An i3 should be good though.

And the PSU, the 100 watt one should be a lot more up the HTPC's alley. A 60-80 watt might not be good enough. I know the TDP often times isn't truely indicative of the amount of power draw the chip has, it is more a measure of heat output. For example, the i3-4130 has a TDP of 54 watts, and in this bit-tech review (http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2013/11/14/intel-core-i3-4130-haswell-review/6), they have it at load at nearly 100 watts power draw. So the 35 watt TDP i3 might draw say, 75 watts under load. PROBABLY less for you, since you say you won't be loading it too hard, but keeping 100% power figures in mind and building for them is great practice.
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I was hoping not to have to buy any more pieces than the CPU board and heatsink. Already pushing the bill up with those...
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