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No, no, no....

When people are looking at comparable products, one having a component that would require assembly or tweaking on some level, versus one that it is already done for them, a lot of people go with the second. Even if there is a small cost premium, a lot of people are going to go for the second.

Another example of this....

EVGA and their Hydro series, people spend a slight premium just to get the card with the WB installed already, and covered by warranty.

So for VisionTek to say "Hey, look, this saves you time/money by going this route... I feel is completely legitimate.

Oh of course...I would happily pay the $550 asking price (as it's only really $20-30 more than buying it all separately). My problem with their cost analysis is how they just add $75 to the over all price because of time needed to install a water block.

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Assembly, Pressure Testing, and Overclocking Verification: estimated three hours at a value of $75.00
part. Where are they getting this made up $75 from? How does someone assembling and testing their new video card/water cooling cost that person $75. That's what I'm calling "rolleyes.gif" on.

They could have just added the normal costs up (GPU, block, backplate) and it still would be more than what they're charging over all. This is just typical marketing B.S. to try and make their product seem like it's wayyyy more cheaper (which as I said it already is so I don't understand why they'd do this).
Edited by AndroidVageta - 1/7/14 at 5:11pm
post #12 of 51
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This is just typical marketing B.S. to try and make their product seem like it's wayyyy more cheaper (which as I said it already is so I don't understand why they'd do this).

I think you already answered it yourself. It's purely marketing as many people do consider that (time == money).

Any conscious reader and tech enthusiast would have already done the math without factoring that extra $75 since this is their hobby and not a job.

That said, I can't complain about a pure black PCB with a sexy nickel/plexi EK block. biggrin.gif
    
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post #13 of 51
mine did 1220 on stock pcb stock cooler but it is a nice card thumb.gif
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Oh of course...I would happily pay the $550 asking price (as it's only really $20-30 more than buying it all separately). My problem with their cost analysis is how they just add $75 to the over all price because of time needed to install a water block.

Oh, yea, I get where you are coming from with that.
    
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rolleyes.gif

I agree with you. adding 75 for that is silly.
 
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So I guess mostly, congrats to EK for the VisionTek contract?
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Went to buy one of these and before I could get my info in the price went from 550.00 to 593.50 before shipping while it was in my cart mad.gifmad.gifmad.gif
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post #18 of 51
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Oh of course...I would happily pay the $550 asking price (as it's only really $20-30 more than buying it all separately). My problem with their cost analysis is how they just add $75 to the over all price because of time needed to install a water block.

The:
part. Where are they getting this made up $75 from? How does someone assembling and testing their new video card/water cooling cost that person $75. That's what I'm calling "rolleyes.gif" on.

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Labor costs, too ya know. And Visiontek is an American company IIRC, and quite possibly assembles these cards in the states. $75 is cheap compared to someone like Geek Squad would charge. Not saying it's perfect, and a lot is still marketing, but any computer shop would charge at least that to install and leak test the block, as well as test the card afterward. Just because they are an AIB doesn't mean they get labor for free.
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post #19 of 51
Only a one year warranty. That's garbage.
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Basically an EK block on a reference card it looks like

http://www.pcper.com/news/Graphics-Cards/CES-2014-VisionTek-Launches-Liquid-Cooled-CryoVenom-R9-290-Graphics-Card
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