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Ok, so worth buying an i7 4770k + mobo now and change later to 5770k? Will it have the same problem as Haswell, thermal paste inside and very high temperatures?

It's your money, do what you want with it.

If you buy 4770K and Z87 board now, and upgrade to a 5770K later - you'll replace the CPU, Motherboard, and the RAM too. Broadwell on the desktop will likely have a DDR4 interface, so not only will the motherboard need to be swapped out, but the RAM too.

Why Intel would come out with another socket that's incompatible with the same number of pins is beyond me. If they're truly incompatible, they need to make it a Socket 1151 or something to keep idiots from cross-socketing the wrong generation CPU.


Actually, with my money, I went from a 2600K to a 3930K hex core and haven't regretted it one bit. If you can swing an X79 board and get a 4930K, you'd be set for 4-5 years with now issues at all.


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Should work via a BIOS update.

That is 100% pure speculation.

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That is 100% pure speculation.

Greg

Of course, but based off past generations. It's very likely but don't hold me to it.
     
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the integrated voltage regulator (iVR) is being moved off-die and back onto the motherboard so i don't see how the broadwell would work on a z87 since the chip nor board would have a IVR
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And do you know when it will be launched?
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And do you know when it will be launched?

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It's your money, do what you want with it.

If you buy 4770K and Z87 board now, and upgrade to a 5770K later - you'll replace the CPU, Motherboard, and the RAM too. Broadwell on the desktop will likely have a DDR4 interface, so not only will the motherboard need to be swapped out, but the RAM too.

Why Intel would come out with another socket that's incompatible with the same number of pins is beyond me. If they're truly incompatible, they need to make it a Socket 1151 or something to keep idiots from cross-socketing the wrong generation CPU.


Actually, with my money, I went from a 2600K to a 3930K hex core and haven't regretted it one bit. If you can swing an X79 board and get a 4930K, you'd be set for 4-5 years with now issues at all.


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Why would you recommend someone to spend top dollar on 2011 setup when IVB-E is just about to get replaced with Haswell-e within 5 to 8 months? I'm sure it feels horrible when you spend top dollar and couple months later something else comes out way better than your current one, and this is exact the same case from IVB-E to Haswell-E


Well, so the good thing about Broadwell is that they move IVR back to motherboard which will solve heat and overclocking concerns, but I'm pretty sure it's not gonna have DDR4 support, DDR4 first will hit market with Haswell-e and later early 2015 or 2H 2015 with SkyLake
Edited by RetiredAssassin - 1/8/14 at 1:49am
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the integrated voltage regulator (iVR) is being moved off-die and back onto the motherboard so i don't see how the broadwell would work on a z87 since the chip nor board would have a IVR

This is a step in the right direction, but why the sudden change? I thought with the way things were going everything was going to be placed on die
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I'm sure it feels horrible when you spend top dollar and couple months later something else comes out way better than your current one, and this is exact the same case from IVB-E to Haswell-E

There's two sides to this coin. Side one is do without and wait, side two is get it now and enjoy it for a 6-10 months until Haswell-E comes out. If the OP is happy enough with their current system to wait it out, then by all means - wait.
There's also no guarantee that Haswell-E is going to be "way better" than IB-E. IB-E was 5-10% faster than SB-E at the same processor level (e.g. 3930K vs. 4930K). When I bought my SB-E components, there was NO WAY I was going to put off my purchase for 10 months just to get 10-15% better performance for the same money. Just not worth it to me.

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Edited by hammong - 1/8/14 at 10:50am
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Why would you recommend someone to spend top dollar on 2011 setup when IVB-E is just about to get replaced with Haswell-e within 5 to 8 months? I'm sure it feels horrible when you spend top dollar and couple months later something else comes out way better than your current one, and this is exact the same case from IVB-E to Haswell-E


Well, so the good thing about Broadwell is that they move IVR back to motherboard which will solve heat and overclocking concerns, but I'm pretty sure it's not gonna have DDR4 support, DDR4 first will hit market with Haswell-e and later early 2015 or 2H 2015 with SkyLake

You could always sell your X79 pieces when X99 comes out. Technology isnt an investment
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