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post #1 of 32
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Hello guys this is my first build and have been doing a ton of reading on the subject. I need some help making decisions on a few key areas. Pretty much need suggestions on the undecided components. My goal is to overclock both cpu and gpu while also keeping the system relatively quiet. I'm also aiming to design a water cooling solution that will accommodate a future additional gpu.

My tentative build:
CPU: i7 4770k
Mobo: Asus Maximus VI formula More info!! (Click to show)
This mobo has a "cross chill" waterblock, is this safe to use considering its anodized aluminum?
GPU: Single gtx 780ti - possible another in the future
Case: 750d Obsidian
PSU: undecided More info!! (Click to show)
I was thinking ATX1200i but I really don't enjoy the large price. Any suggestion for a similar psu that is fully modular? keep in mind that I'm looking to SLI in the future.

CPU Waterblock: EK-Supremacy More info!! (Click to show)
I need some help understanding the different variations of this block i.e Acetal, nickel, gold, CSQ.
GPU Waterblock: EK-FC780 GTX Ti
Pump: EK-D5 vario
Rads: undecided More info!! (Click to show)
I need help on choosing the rads keeping in mind that I plan on adding another GPU in the future.

This is the rad compatibility of the 750d according to Cosair site:

Top: 3 x 120mm or 2 x 140mm
Front: 2 x 140mm or 2 x 120mm (2 x 140mm included)
Bottom: 2 x 120mm
Rear: 1 x 140mm or 120mm (140mm included)

I was thinking that I might be able to take advantage of the included Corsair AF140L fans and supplement any additional fans with Noctua NF-F12 PWM. The Noctua choice based solely on the fact they are community choice on these forums.
Tubing: undecided
Res: undecided More info!! (Click to show)
preferably a tube style but not sure on the size. I seen some of the EK ones like the EK-MultiOption RES X3 250 but I'm open to suggestion on this.
Fans: undecided
Edited by simsmode - 1/7/14 at 6:44pm
post #2 of 32
Mobo block is arguably safe (considering it's anodized) but I wouldn't wc it, because of unnecessary flow restriction and slight chance of corrosion.

PSU alternative is something from EVGA (NEX series).

Acetal and nickel or a mixture of those are what EK uses in its WBs for the plating material on top of the cold plate (they use copper for the actual cold plate), they have different colors (acetal a bit more like shiny copper color, nickel more of a silver color).

Gold is just the color, and CSQ is the name for the current design style of EK.

For rads I recommend the Alphacool NexXxoS series, very good bunch of rads that come in 4 thicknesses.

Tubing should be Primochill Primoflex Advanced LRT, the most recommended brand for least plasticiser etc.

The EK X3 is good, and also check out the BP Z-Multi as a good value option.

There are lots of good fans of course like Scythe GT, Cougar Vortex, NB eLoop, etc.
Edited by WarpPrism - 1/7/14 at 7:51pm
post #3 of 32
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Thanks for the suggestions, I think I'll take your advice and skip on the mobo block.

on the psu, I did a power consumption estimate using this online calculator. It allows you to account for overclocking and water cooling, however it's calculated 760w for my intended set up (sli) just doesn't seem correct. What wattage would you recommend for this build? Is 1200w overkill?

Thanks for clearing up my confusion on the EK products and for suggestions of the tubing, res, and fans.

On the rads, I was looking more for a suggestion on how many / how big to use. What I was thinking was that on the top I could use a 360 with Noctua NF-F12 PWM. and on the front use the 2 Corsair AF140L fans included with the case on a 280 rad. Would this be sufficient to cool all the components?
post #4 of 32
A 360 + 280 should be enough to cool a 4770K and SLI 780 Tis, but AF140s have got awful static pressure and so I would recommend switching them out if you have the money.

The radiators can probably decently thick, like around up to 40 mm (for the top at least, the front can be thicker), but not too thick from what I've seen of the 750D.

At stock or with a slight OC, 750W would be about enough for your setup, but if you want to overclock decently, then i would suggest maybe around 850 to 1000 W. 1200 W might be slight overkill but that is fine.
post #5 of 32
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Awesome WarpPrism, thanks for your help. I'll make sure to post my build when complete and throw you a shout out.
post #6 of 32
I can't answer any of what you asked because you didn't tell me what you aim to do with it. Did you want silent computing or performance? Or a mixture of both? I'll say one thing that I'm absolutely certain of though. That motherboard is a complete waste to you.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Puunh View Post

I can't answer any of what you asked because you didn't tell me what you aim to do with it. Did you want silent computing or performance? Or a mixture of both? I'll say one thing that I'm absolutely certain of though. That motherboard is a complete waste to you.

I'll give you a warning first: if you continue going around saying negative things like I have seen you doing in a bunch of the water cooling forum threads, the consequences will not be good. Please try to be more respectful and help without insulting others while doing it.

For now, it's just a friendly warning, but please do try to be considerate.
Edited by WarpPrism - 1/11/14 at 12:13pm
post #8 of 32
For you rads and fans I suggest you take a look http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/04/14/360-radiator-shootout-summary/
That will tell you how much restriction your radiator will have and what amount of wattage you can expect to get rid of for whichever rpm you choose.
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post #9 of 32
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@ Puunh
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My goal is to overclock both cpu and gpu while also keeping the system relatively quiet. I'm also aiming to design a water cooling solution that will accommodate a future additional gpu.

On another note, thanks for that link man. Also, is there a better board that you would recommend. I'm not gonna lie, I choose that mobo initially because I thought it looked pretty and had the built in bridge cooler but since I'm not going to be using it... I guess it wouldn't hurt to reconsider.

I guess I could be more clear on my intended goal. I want a performance pc with stable overclock pushed to the max on cpu and gpu while maintaining some quietness... I will sacrifice quiet for performance.
post #10 of 32
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@ Puunh
Oh man I really wish I woulda read that rad shoot out sooner... I bought the Black Ice GTX 360, the most restrictive of that testing, 30 mins before reading your post. *FACEPALM*
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