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It often depends on the particular journalist. I generally find THG to be less than mediocre but I always carefully read articles written by Chris Angelini, he is pretty good.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Liranan View Post

THG stands for Tom's Hardware Guide. They are a notorious Intel/nVidia propaganda site.

I thought Tom's Hardware Germany...

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Kaveri likely won't clock as high since AMD's leaked slides said the increased IPC was to offset reduced clocks
Edited by AlphaC - 1/8/14 at 7:15pm
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THG was one of the first sites I started reading back in the day. I generally look to their results more and make my own conclusion based on that (as with most other sites I read)
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post #94 of 286
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All of those are synthetic, Cinebench is FPU (Hence why it's slower) and Geekbench is completely useless as evidenced by what Linus was saying.

When you look what AMD has done with Steamroller the GeekBench and CineBench R15 results don't make sence. confusedsmiley.png

post #95 of 286
Cant we wait for legitimate reviews first ?

10% is a small gain, id be disappointed but Intel CPU's have been leap frogging for a long time now they cost more for a reason, The context just isn't a fair comparison.

However as always happens in these threads (usually the official one) someone will pop up and say why do you need this much power anyway?

I kind of have to agree, if you take a quad that you think is slow it can still do everything that most people want apart from very big file processing which is leaning towards more pro/producer of content, without any fuss.

Look at the Anand article where they have a 7970 and run 1440p (which is the direction people are going) there was 0.3 FPS difference in Metro 2033 between a cheapo 75$ gimped CPU A10-5800k and a $340 beast i7-4770k !

but even further there was 0.4 fps (so zero really) difference between a truly awful CPU wise AMD A6-3650 and a i7-4770k at 1440p .. thats a 35$ APU matching an i7 at higher resolutions. OF course if your going for 120fps type frame rates it wont be the same as soon as your GPU limited.

Considering people are moving to 1440p or even 4k Monitors and games are going for APU/GPU based optimizations i dont think its fair to bash the CPU portion of the cheap as chips APU too much, if it performs 10% better than richland then thats still 20% better than trinity and about 35% better than llano

The biggest single improvement apart from lower CPU watts and temps over the years has been SSD's and that still remains the case.
Edited by Pip Boy - 1/9/14 at 2:57am
post #96 of 286
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When you look what AMD has done with Steamroller the GeekBench and CineBench R15 results don't make sence. confusedsmiley.png

 

According to your Image :

 

1) Cache Missed Reduced by 30%

2) MisPredicted Branched Reduced by 20%

3) Increased in Scheduling Efficiency by 5-10%

4) Max-width Dispatched per Thread by 25%

5) Major improvments in store handling

 

but we saw chart that 10% faster than Piledriver and it's equal 20% IPC over Piledriver?

post #97 of 286
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According to your Image :

1) Cache Missed Reduced by 30%
2) MisPredicted Branched Reduced by 20%
3) Increased in Scheduling Efficiency by 5-10%
4) Max-width Dispatched per Thread by 25%
5) Major improvments in store handling

but we saw chart that 10% faster than Piledriver and it's equal 20% IPC over Piledriver?

where did it say 10% ?
I didn't see it.
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post #98 of 286
Right here:
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In terms of CPU performance, the A10-7850K is overall an improvement over the A10-6800K. Especially in PCMark 08, the A10-7850K was about 10% faster than the A10-6800K. Our GeekBench benchmark indicated lower single-core performance, but as more and more programs use multi-core technology, that is really not even much of an issue.

6800K is Piledriver tongue.gif

That said he is is referring specifically to the PCMark08 results so context, as always, is important.
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Right here:
6800K is Piledriver tongue.gif

That said he is is referring specifically to the PCMark08 results so context, as always, is important.

Weren't the chips running at stock speeds so a 30% IPC increase, some of it is lost due to the lower clock speeds and 30% would likely be best-case scenario
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Although Kaveri's taking a small clock hit (3.7 base vs. Richland's 4.1 base), one would still expect to see improvements over Richland in basically every test, because the clock speed reduction is 10%.

If we estimate a 20-30% improvement in IPC and a 10% reduction in clock speed, we should still expect to see an overall 10-20% IPS improvement. The regression in some of these benches, especially single-core ones, doesn't make sense.
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