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post #1 of 24
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Tax time is coming smile.gif

Its time to replace my aged gaming rig...
Overclocked core2quad
Ep45 mobo
8gb ram
Overclocked 650ti

Ive been playing games like battlefield 4, dayz , skrim.... and although my old rig still does the job, i want to be able to run games on highest settings and still get nice fps.

Wanting to keep it under a grand (the less-the better) and I already have monitors, keyboard,mouse,case.

Trying to decide to build based on an amd or intel setup. Ive always ran intel in the past but see the amd chips are cheaper.

Is it worth the extra cash to go with intel and whats the best "bang for the gamers buck" intel chip right now?

Would just like some suggestions to further research on.

Thanks

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post #2 of 24
if you got, say a q6600 or 9550 in there, and it's OCed above 4ghz you're somewhere brtween an i3 and an i5 performance wise already.

I would do some kind of overclockable 8 core if you want to see a major increase.

are you in traveling distance of a microcenter?
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post #4 of 24
4 basic options. All these chips need major cooling for good OC. either water or a serious aftermarket air cooler. expect them to draw a lot of wattage. If I knew which nation you lived in I could do a pcpartpicker.com build for you.

INtel:
4820k possible cheaper CPU but much more expensive (and better) mobo. You basically want Asus here becuse you'll almost certainly need o flash the bios, and unless you have another 2011 chip laying around it's prolematic with other brands. A lot of the Asus boards will do it with no processor installed though.

4770k possibly more expensive cpu, but cheaper mobo. If you can get to a brick and mortar microcenter you may be able to get a really good deal on this chip.

AMD
8350 less expensive chip, more expensive mobo than 4770k. the 8350 isn;t a heck of a lot faster than your current cpu clock for clock. You can often OC them to near 5ghz though, and it;s got the 8 cores.

9370/9550 Monster 220w power requirement. frequently OC above 5ghz still not quite as fast as 4770k. 9550 is closer than 9370 though.
Edited by bombastinator - 1/8/14 at 4:11am
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post #5 of 24
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Thanks for the quick suggestions.

I am in the US... in central illinois, unfortunately no microcenter around.

Im currently running a q6600, i recently bought an ep45udl mobo and air cooler to try and get the chip to 3.6ghz+ but ended up with only 3.2 being stable. I then upgraded ram to 8gb and slapped a 650 ti in there figuring anymore of a video card would be bottlenecked by the cpu, but from overclocking my vid card i see that 100% of my gpu is being used, so maybe should of went with a 660 ti.


I get decent frames on most games on high and very high but run into frame drops.

I dont want to build a new rig unless its going to be a huge performance jump thats easily noticeable.

I first built this rig in 2007... lol cant beleive its still going strong, ive been playing dayz lately and its only in alpha and not optimized yet but im getting only fps in the 20's while my buddy with his i7 and 660ti is in the 50's frown.gif

Keep the feedback coming and i appreciate the help

Would a new video card boost me in gaming or will my old quad be a bottleneck for sure?

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post #6 of 24
well if you're not getting over 4ghz you're not in the ballpark (notice I'm not either) The worst we can do I think is get you the equivalent of your chip at 4.8 with 8 cores. lemme warm up partspicker here.... what is model and age of current PSU btw?
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4770k some mid range asrock. extreme 4 maybe? 2x gigabyte windforce 7950 2 x 8 corsair balistix sport 
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crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
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crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
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post #7 of 24
amd option

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Water 2.0 Pro 81.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI 990FXA-GD65V2 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL EVO Leggara Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: A-Data XPG SX900 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($314.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: OCZ Fatal1ty 550W 80+ Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $983.93
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-08 10:30 EST-0500)

intel option

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake Water 2.0 Pro 81.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Pro3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($94.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL EVO Leggara Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($68.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: A-Data XPG SX900 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card ($261.67 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: OCZ Fatal1ty 550W 80+ Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1025.61
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-08 10:36 EST-0500)

with the intel you get more cpu and less video card. Not a whole lot though. the 7870xt should have been named the 7930. It's basically a 7950 with 2gb memory. they tend to get a bit warm though.

since you have a working machine, my instinct would be buy the 770 and put it in your current machine. Sell the 650ti on ebay and/or buy a used 3770k. They're competitive with the 4770k and you can find them used. One in the marketplace for $250 atm. then buy up the rest of the system. May have room for more memory or more hard drive.

another option would be to go amd, and buy a cheap assed case along with it. then you'd have 2 working machines.

My last idea, which is so cheap you can do before tax time is look up the xenon 771 sticker mod You might be able to get your current machine past 4ghz for $50
Edited by bombastinator - 1/8/14 at 8:01am
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crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
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Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
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post #8 of 24
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Originally Posted by bombastinator View Post

well if you're not getting over 4ghz you're not in the ballpark (notice I'm not either) The worst we can do I think is get you the equivalent of your chip at 4.8 with 8 cores. lemme warm up partspicker here.... what is model and age of current PSU btw?

I got a new corsair 430 bronze plus certified modular in the old rig, also a new in box nzxt gamma case ive never used yet.

I was really hoping this g0 stepping q66 would hit 3.6+ frown.gif

I just recentlly paid like $80 used for this gigabyte ep45 mobo because they are known to be good for overclocking, i got a asus p5b and a asrock mobo that i couldnt even get past 3ghz with the q66.

My 650ti is pretty new... i could sell it and get a much better vid card, just didnt want to waste $ on a better vid card when i figured cpu would be bottlenecked.

I thought about trying to get another used q66 to try and oc but then i feel i keep dumping money in an aged system.


If i could get good performance out of this system i could hold out on new rig for another year or two.
Just cant seem to make my mind up.



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i personally don't see any reason to wait. it is unlikely that a vastly faster CPU will appear. We are reaching the limit of what can be done with silicon fab. i'd go with the AMD or start piecing together a 3770k machine with some used parts. Gpus haven't bottomed out the way CPUs have, but they're starting to get very disturbingly large and hot, and there are boards like the 250x which imply they are starting to.

your current psu is too light for either of these builds if you want to do a lot of overclocking. i'd say 500-600w is your range. The AMD needs the big psu. you could get away with your old one on the intel though.

if you have a use for your old machine as a server, coin mining rig or even a hand me down, AMD will give you 2 whole machines. The intel option will leave you with a case, a mobo, and a cpu.
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4770k some mid range asrock. extreme 4 maybe? 2x gigabyte windforce 7950 2 x 8 corsair balistix sport 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
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4770k some mid range asrock. extreme 4 maybe? 2x gigabyte windforce 7950 2 x 8 corsair balistix sport 
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crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
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post #10 of 24
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Heres the rig i researched on and picked out last tax time but never bought and tried to oc my old rig instead...

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.96 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus 76.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($27.97 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($148.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Staples)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($58.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card
Case: NZXT M59 - 001BK ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Rosewill Capstone 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $742.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-08 09:15 EST-0500)


How outdated is this partlist?
I know about a year ago it was about the best i could do for a grand.

I havnt been researching anything the past year so have some reading to do lol.

Looks like all the prices have went up on these same components since a year ago... whats up with that?

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cx750m NZXT Cobra 
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7700k Asrock Z270 Extreme 4 gtx 1060 6gb 16gb ddr4 3200 
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cx750m NZXT Cobra 
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7700k Asrock Z270 Extreme 4 gtx 1060 6gb 16gb ddr4 3200 
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