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Another point I want to make very clear about FreeSync: working with standards bodies obviates the need for a custom FPGA and associated costs. DRR capabilities can be built directly into next-generation monitor scalers.
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I am pretty sure it has about zero to do with financial resources. I think most people just don't care either way, and view their monitors as good enough. Those that do care will buy it, if they want to. Also i am pretty sure by the nature of the tech G-sync is better and more real time adaptive.

A persons financial position absolutely impact their purchasing, especially on luxury items. To think otherwise is silly.
    
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Another point I want to make very clear about FreeSync: working with standards bodies obviates the need for a custom FPGA and associated costs. DRR capabilities can be built directly into next-generation monitor scalers.

Is there any chance that Freesync may work with any available monitor right now? Does it only work with Displayport 1.3? Any chance to work with controlless DVI monitors? (Like Korean Qnix QX2710)
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Is there any chance that Freesync may work with any available monitor right now? Does it only work with Displayport 1.3? Any chance to work with controlless DVI monitors? (Like Korean Qnix QX2710)

No, it will require the finalizing of the DisplayPort 1.3 standard, and it to use VBlank as part of it, and an ASIC (chip) installed on the supporting monitors.

It will require all new hardware, you won't be able to retrofit it to older displays that don't have DP 1.3 on them already.
    
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I am not gonna replace my new Dell 24" monitor until it breaks, which also covered by 5years warranty since mid 2013. It is either Dell/AMD get freesync work on my monitor. Or Nvidia give free G-sync. otherwise Dont expect me to take out a dime on these sync thing. I better off buying a GPU.
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I am not gonna replace my new Dell 24" monitor until it breaks, which also covered by 5years warranty since mid 2013. It is either Dell/AMD get freesync work on my monitor. Or Nvidia give free G-sync. otherwise Dont expect me to take out a dime on these sync thing. I better off buying a GPU.

Your display CAN NOT ever support FreeSync, as it doesn't have DisplayPort 1.3 with VBlank and the ASIC to support it. So, from the sounds of it, you will be with the Dell for awhile. biggrin.gif
    
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One thing to note is that the Yamasaki panels have eDP internally. AMD have stated that the feature has been in cards for generations, it is likely that variable vblank can be supported by all cards (could the AMD rep clarify?). If the manufacturer for the panels edp chip uses the same chip in laptops, it may also support variable vblank.

Assuming the stars aligned and the right chip was in the panel, you could wire the edp directly up to dp, use drivers supporting freesync (which currently don't exist) and use a custom back light controller (should be easy enough with a PWM micro).

So, to say that the korean monitors will never do it is a step to far, but it would require someone with some motivation, and luck.
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I only care about end results. Nvidia delivers on promises, AMD doesn't, end of story. If AMD delivered on promises, the eyefinity bugs with 79xx and prior cards wouldn't have existed for so many years.

From what I remember,all SLi and Crossfire GPU's have micro stuttering issues.Sync issues have now been shown to be a major cause...in both camps.Neither AMD nor Nvidia design products specifically for you,they design products for a wide range of users.AMD has chosen to target the masses,Nvidia the "elite" gamers with money to burn on new hardware every few months.Get over it.
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What I read:

Nvidia: "Buy our stuff"

That's it.
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So I've done some googling, and found that at least some of the 27' korean panels use the dp628 edp chip. This does not support PSR (Panel Self Refresh), which I believe is the feature required to enable freesync. Could the AMD rep clarify?

After some more searching, it seems parade, the manufacturers of the catleap edp chip, also do the DP633/643/653 chips which do support PSR. If you're opening your monitors and you see one of these on the circuit board on the back of the panel, let me know.

EDIT:
Hmm, it looks like those chips only go up to 1080p. A chip that supports 1440 vertical res and PSR is probably a rare beastie.
Edited by rockofclay - 1/8/14 at 6:08pm
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