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Originally Posted by LordBelakor View Post

Please tell me youre joking right? You do realize that quite a lot of people have Dual link DVI as a connector? And its quite a good one at that, there is no reason to change it to DP.
Also a lot of people have a TV attached to their pc, they need that HDMI connector. Dont just go off and ask for such ridiculous things, just because you happen to own Displayport.

Yep. My work computer has 2 HDMI displays. with my 6950 in it, i still need a DP-HDMI adapter cable to plug in monitor #2. Plus, DP is latching, so it's less likely to fall out.
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Originally Posted by Tsumi View Post

DP to HDMI and DVI adapters are cheap. Less than $20, and are usually included with the cards anyways.

The biggest roadblock is those that require dual-link DVI for 120 hz or 1440p or 1600p monitors. Active dual-link DP to DVI adapters cost close to $100, and take up a USB port each. People running three such displays would need $300 in adapters.

Or the biggest road block is monitors that still use DVI. depends on how you look at it. I still see universities specifying VGA cable installs in NEW construction. ????? Get with 2014, folks.
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Exactly and I am planning on getting said 1440p monitor which only has a single Dual-link DVI port to connect to. Im thankful that ub3rgr33k isnt in AMD or Nvidias Development Department.

Most cards with multiple DVI ports only have one port with dual link anyways, so what do you gain with a single dual-link and a single link? you still need a pricey dongle for each additional display.
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It's more like, there are multiple needs out there, and the needs of those that want multiple DP connectors only aren't being met with any current cards.

Another big benefit to miniDP is that you can easily fit 6 of them in a single slot, and still keep a full slot open for cooling (or for making single slot WC cards). you can't fit enough DP/HMDI/DVI connectors on a card to do that - some of the triple slot GPUs waste two full slots on connectors! imagine the self-exhausting cooling you could do with a 3 slot card, and a full-on 2 slot exhaust vent?

The bottom line for me is I'd rather have miniDP/DP connectors, than HDMI/DVI connectors. you can convert to anything with the former, and very limited options with the latter. I never thought I'd be hooking up 3rd or 4th monitors to my 7970, but I am, and I can, thanks to the miniDP ports.
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I dont need multiple Displays. In my opinion multiple Displays are useless, for gaming at least. The upcoming Oculus Rift is a way better solution.
But the korean Monitor I want only has a single Dual Link port. Thats all I need. But your wanted designs only have DP ports. Way to be restrictive.
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I dont need multiple Displays. In my opinion multiple Displays are useless, for gaming at least. The upcoming Oculus Rift is a way better solution.
But the korean Monitor I want only has a single Dual Link port. Thats all I need. But your wanted designs only have DP ports. Way to be restrictive.

1. You're not the only person in the world.
2. DP is far from restrictive. DP can output single link DVI for $8 or $25, dual link DVI for $90, HDMI for $8, or VGA for $6. Conversely, I can only find two DVI to DP adapters, and they come at a cost of $90.
3. Oculus Rift isn't here yet. Multimonitor setups have been around for over 20 years.
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Some of us do more than gaming. and how is DP restrictive? what can't you connect to a DP port via an adapter?

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1. You're not the only person in the world.
2. DP is far from restrictive. DP can output single link DVI for $8 or $25, dual link DVI for $90, HDMI for $8, or VGA for $6. Conversely, I can only find two DVI to DP adapters, and they come at a cost of $90.
3. Oculus Rift isn't here yet. Multimonitor setups have been around for over 20 years.
Why should I get the short stick, and pay 90$ for an adapter? Why not simply have one Dual Link DVI port, 2 DP and 1 HDMI or more of any port on graphics cards and please almost everyone? Why do you insist on only having 4-6 DP ports on a graphics card? For multi monitor setups with 3+ monitors?
"1.You're not the only person in the world.", right back at you. I am pretty sure multimonitor setups are in the minority, compared to setups that need Dual link DVI.
Edited by LordBelakor - 1/10/14 at 2:31am
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Actually the modern VGA like R9 and GTX 700 support the DP 1.3 ?
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Originally Posted by LordBelakor View Post

Why should I get the short stick, and pay 90$ for an adapter? Why not simply have one Dual Link DVI port, 2 DP and 1 HDMI or more of any port on graphics cards and please almost everyone? Why do you insist on only having 4-6 DP ports on a graphics card? For multi monitor setups with 3+ monitors?
"1.You're not the only person in the world.", right back at you. I am pretty sure multimonitor setups are in the minority, compared to setups that need Dual link DVI.

1. I am not insisting on only 4-6 DP ports on a card. I have never said that. You are only reading what you want to read.
2. There are a ton of cards with HDMI and dual-link DVI. Conversely, there are no modern cards with 6 DP. I'm saying there should be more options. Since when is more options ever a bad thing?
3. In the grand scheme of things, both dual-link and multimonitor setups are in the minority.
4. 6 mDP allows for single slot cards. Add more than two DVI ports, and you need two slots for outputs. Older 6xxx and 5xxx cards did 1 DVI, 1 HDMI, and two mDP on single slot, but no modern cards have that configuration.
5. Mixed outputs is crap for eyefinity, and causes screen tearing.
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Actually the modern VGA like R9 and GTX 700 support the DP 1.3 ?

Officially? Highly unlikely. Unofficially? It's possible, but probably with missing features.
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Well sorry, I guess I am fine with what you are wanting, I was just of the impression you were of the same opinon as ub3rgr33k who posted the pictures with cards that had only 6 DP and nothing else and at the same time posted pictures of normal cards and said they shouldnt exist. I am fine with having as many options and possibilities as possible, but I am harshly against limiting, even if it is to the best standard.
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G-Sync's sweet stop is 40-60Hz...I am wrong?
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I never said they shouldn't release the product. If they hadn't AMD wouldn't be pushing a standard.Why do people insist on creating strawmen for them to knock down? Is it because they can't argue what is posted?
The idea that it will takes years for an AMD, standards based solution is preposterous though.
Actually AMD has been pushing the standard for a while along with Intel. Not sure when Nvidia came into the picture, they weren't mentioned in the initial implementation. G-sync may actually be a godsend more for the fact that it may help pass Vblank in DP1.3 more than being an actual product. And I don't think the cost to implement will be as high being the tech is already out there.
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