Originally Posted by Heinz68
So you rather bet on what Peterson said, I say lets wait and see.
That's what AMD's lies boil down to. Let's wait and see. Wait for this driver. Wait for this fix. WAIT FOR THIS WAIT FOR THAT..
I had 5870CF and 7970CF. 5870CF? Tearing in CF eyefinity? Get a MST hub to fix it. AMD told me this in 2010. Only MST hubs didn't appear on the market until 2013 and only in EUROPE at that, i'm in the US. Then with 7970 CF. Why did i buy it? I'm an idiot. But oh wait. Tearing and microstutter bug still exists in crossfire eyefinity. Has it been fixed? NO. IT STILL HASN'T BEEN FIXED.
LET'S WAIT AND SEE. Websites reported on the crossfire eyefinity tear/stuttering issue in 2012. AMD didn't even acknowledge the bug until websites pestered them in 2012. Then they said, wait and see, wait for our driver. In 2012. Guess what. Bug still exists. AMD admitted to the bug. Wait and see guys! LOL. That's AMD for you. Their marketing suckered you in hook line and sinker. I could go on with AMD issues I had constantly when I was an AMD GPU user, only I learned that AMD is full of lies and half truths.
"Free and open standards". Is that what AMD's marketing is saying about free-sync? I heard this somewhere before. Where? HD3D. "Hey guys, here's our 3D API, go forth and use it"! Only, AMD abandoned HD3D and gave the driver rights to Tri-Def. TRI-DEF CHARGES FOR THE HD3D DRIVER NOW. AMD? Left anyone who bought an HD3D monitor out to try. They abandoned it. "Free and open standards". It all sounds so good on paper for AMD's marketing. If only their marketing weren't liars. Meanwhile, 3D Vision is still supported. Nvidia still updates it in their driver, doesn't charge for 3d vision drivers (tri-def does), and they actively add games to 3d vision. This is a stark contrast to the samsung HD3D monitor users, whom AMD gave the middle finger to.
By the way. You can't upgrade monitor firmware - you can't upgrade a monitor control board through firmware, and even if you COULD in some alternate fantasy land, monitor firmware is NOT user upgradeable. You have to RMA the monitor, and assume that the monitor manufacturer wants to bother with doing AMD's dirty work for them (YEAH RIGHT). Meanwhile, AMD keeps throwing out vague half-truths to give AMD users hope. "Maybe" you can upgrade the firmware. That isn't true. Monitor firmware isn't user upgrade-able, and doesn't magically turn the control module into a variable refresh aware one. You keep buying into their marketing BS though.
You keep waiting and seeing. ME? I'm done waiting and seeing. I'm done listening to AMD's lies. The facts are this:
1) AMD's freesync demo only worked because their laptops used the eDP interface. eDP is not used in desktop monitors.
2) AMD's freesync requires displayport 1.3 according to several websites Their GPUs do not support DP 1.3. DP 1.3 is not even finalized yet, and probably won't be until this summer or fall of 2014. (edit: this isn't confirmed, but AMD was completely vague on whether DP 1.3 is required or not. I suspect that AMD doesn't even know or want to tell us)
3) AMD's freesync requires a controller in the monitor that is variable refresh aware. This is NO DIFFERENT THAN g-sync which has a module for the SAME REASON. AMD's marketing lied and told you it was free.
4) Based on #3: new monitor is not free. new controller is not free. This ignores the fact that DP 1.3 monitors will not be on market for all of 2014 in all likelihood.
5) Freesync is marketing type designed to take attention away from g-sync.
6) Lastly, g-sync was not announced until it was DONE. nvidia has monitor partners READY. G-sync monitors are ready. The release time frame is set. Nvidia has a plan to get it to market.
7) Meanwhile, AMD's lying, I mean, marketing department has zero monitor partners. They don't have a release time frame. They have no plan to market.
Do you see a difference here? Free-sync is marketing nonsense. Even the name alone, free-sync, is a spin of "g-sync". Marketing fluff. You keep waiting and seeing. I'm 99.9% sure free-sync won't happen in 2014, based on AMD's prior history of never delivering on promises. You can vilify nvidia all you want based on their pricing, but G-sync wasn't announced until it was done and ready. I don't particularly like nvidia the corporation, because they do charge a lot of money. But? They deliver on promises. They didn't tell us about g-sync until they had a plan. And on that note, g-sync is DONE RIGHT NOW. Free-sync? We have more questions than answers. It will not happen in 2014. This I can almost guarantee you.Edited by xoleras - 1/12/14 at 4:56am