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Hey everybody! I'm trying to overclock my system. I've read the Guide by NoAffinity but I'm still a little confused and...I'm a little hesitant. Basically I'm a coward.
I don't want to take it too far over the bar but I'm hoping to clear up a couple of performance hiccups as well as speed up the time it takes to RIP large image files for printing.

Here are my stats:

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 (BIOS Version F6)
CPU Type: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600, 2400 MHz (9 x 267) Codename: Conroe
FSB Speed: 4x267MHz (1068MHz Data Rate)
Motherboard Chipset: Intel Broadwater P965
System Memory: 3072MB (Three Mushkin 1024MB PC5400 DDR2 667MHz DIMMS)
Hard Disk: Seagate 320GB Serial ATA 7200/16MB/SATA-3G (NTFS, 83% Free Space)
Video Adapter: NVIDIA XFX GeForce 7600 GT XXX Edition / 256MB GDDR3 / SLI / PCI Express
OS: Windows XP Pro SP2

I'm using a ThermalTake Tsunami Dream Case with 3 Case Fans (Front, Back, and Side) and a ThermalTake Copper Heatpipe Cooling Fan (43 CFM) on the CPU.
Any help would be greatly appreciated and I'm new so if I missed anything, bear with me.

Thanks!
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^^^Sweet.
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post #3 of 11
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Hey Perry, thanks! But does anybody have any suggestions? Does it look like I have any headroom?
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post #4 of 11
Hello!

I have a Gigabyte DQ6, which is basically the same board but with more features. I've become very comfortable with my case and settings, so I usually just run down the menu in the "MIB Motherboard Intelligent Tweaker" in the BIOS

1. Disable virtualization and all that other junk, enable CPU Host Clock Control
2. Manually enter in a number into the CPU Host Frequency. Jumping right up to 300 shouldn't be a big deal for you... I jumped up to 350 personally and started tweaking from there. I'm a lazy overclocker, which also means I'm an expensive overclocker lol

Scroll down to the voltages and

3. Give some extra juice to your memory. I've seen people got as high as +0.3V, but I go with +0.2V
4. (G)MCH and FSB OverVoltage both get +0.15v from me
5. CPU Voltage should go to around 1.35v

I'm assuming you've already read the FAQ, so read it again. The FAQ hands down explains everything in the clearest and most concise way. No need to be a coward, as the DS3 is probably one of the most popular boards behind the ASUS on this forum.

My numbers are

FSB : 360
DDR2 overvoltage: +0.200v
G MCH overvoltage: +0.15v
FSB overvoltage: +0.15v
CPU Voltage Control: 1.35v

Google up "6600 DS3" and you'll probably find lots of numbers for reference. When I searched "6600 and DQ6" i found a ton of threads (and this website)
    
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post #5 of 11
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Thanks GFreeman! I'm in the middle of stepping up based on your suggested numbers. So far so good! My initial 3DMark06 score was 4775, I'll post my final score when I finish.

There were a couple of options I wasn't sure about though:

Memory Performance Enhance
C.I.A. 2
Robust Graphics Booster

Thanks for the help!
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post #6 of 11
CIA 2: Definitely kill it. This feature is basically over clocking for the lazy, and results in not as good performance as DIY, doing it yourself.

Robust Graphics Booster: It basically varies your PCI-E frequency under load. I personally don't like these "intelligent boosting" features, so I'd kill it

Memory Performance Enhance: No idea what it is. I'd just kill it, it's probably another "intelli-boost" type feature.

I've revised my numbers a little after I let the motherboard automatically control the voltage and I only tweaked the FSB and Memory timings. I found that on its own, the motherboard will raise the VCore all the way to 1.40v (reading through CPU-Z) and result in way too hot temps (55 at night).

I've lowered the voltage overages a step, and raised the CPU control voltage to 1.375, resulting in a 1.328 vcore reading. Temperatures are a now way lower... (41 idle, 51 load) but it may be because my AS5 has finally cured after I lapped (sanded) the CPU and HSF two days ago.

Hitting 3.2 ghz with decent temperatures shouldn't be a problem at all with your board unless you got a faulty chip, installed the HSF wrong, etc. etc.
    
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post #7 of 11
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Here's my current numbers:

CPU Freq: 305
Vcore: 1.35v
DDR2: +0.2v
FSB: +0.1v
(G)MCH: +0.1v
PCI-E: Stock

Now, I'm still at 4:5 ratio... what do I need to boost in order to make it to 1:1?
Also, CoreTemp shows me idling around 41-43 degrees, is that too high?

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post #8 of 11
Go to "System Memory Multiplier" and change the number to 2.00. This locks your memory ratio to 1:1.

Also, temps of 41 at idle aren't bad at all. Throw ORTHOS at it and see what temps you get then. For reference, most people prefer to keep temps below 55 degrees, as 60 degrees is when things start to go bad according to most sources (some people claim 80 degrees). So yeah, in a nutshell keep it under 55 during load. I personally think your Vcore could be lowered a bit, i'm testing at 3.2 ghz getting a 1.328 vcore reading

I think you'll like this webpage/review

http://sg.vr-zone.com/?i=3870

OH YEAH, you need to manually tweak your memory timings. At the main page, press CTRL + F1 to access this feature in the M.I.T.

You do know your memory's manufacturer recommended timings right?

You're doing good, keep up the testing and you should be at 3.2 in no time.
    
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post #9 of 11
I'd watch those temps carefully. 41 * C Idle usually translates into 52 * C load, atleast for me.

At stock vcore I'd think your temps would be in the lower 30s at idle.

Mine runs at 3.5 ghz at 53 * C load on a Tuniq with a stock fan. (Mines not even a good week! 31A Bah!)

So at 3.5, my idle is 41-42 * C and my vcore is set at 1.4625 in my bios.

I'd spring for a Tuniq to replace the Thermaltake HSF you've got if you plan to take your speed much higher.

Also start testing for stability, if your system is stable for 8-12 hours in Orthos, try lowering the vcore and trying for stability again, this is the easiest way to lower temps. Lower vcore = lower temps.

Also, use Intel's TAT for monitoring temps.
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post #10 of 11
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That review was extremely helpful!

I lowered my vcore and my temps are looking a whole lot better. I'm currently running at 2.88. As far as tweaking my memory timings goes... I'm not sure what the recommended timings are, I'll do some research and see if I can find them. Is there a general rule of thumb I should know once I figure them out?
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Core 2 Duo E6600 2.4GHz Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 NVIDIA XFX GeForce 7600 GT XXX Edition 3072MB (3 Mushkin 1024MB PC5400 DDR2 667MHz DIMMS) 
Hard DriveOSMonitorCase
Seagate 320GB Serial ATA 7200/16MB/SATA-3G (NTFS) Windows XP Pro SP2 LG Flatron ThermalTake Tsunami Dream 
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Seagate 320GB Serial ATA 7200/16MB/SATA-3G (NTFS) Windows XP Pro SP2 LG Flatron ThermalTake Tsunami Dream 
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