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RMA'd my drive.
Well I guess it pays off to be European.

I'm glad they replaced your drive.

Meanwhile, I left a 1-egg review on Newegg to avoid this drive like the plague. (Actually, I should have used those exact words 'Avoid this drive like the plague', but I settled for 'Why risk you(r) hard-earned money when better SSDs are available?')

I also made sure to include phrases such as:
caveat emptor
buyer's remorse
lemon
SSD lottery
shady business practices
bait and switch
consumer deception
Never again

And now that the review is posted and I have faithfully discharged my duty to warn my fellow man, I feel a little better. Sort of.
Edited by elreyhorus - 3/17/14 at 11:58am
    
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Haven't used Kingston in a long time... this isn't helping me make any aims at giving them another shot anytime soon. Much better alternatives available in all areas Kingston would service.
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After updating my firmware from 506 to 525, here are my benchmarks:


Just to re-iterate, firmware has nothing to do with Synchronous/Toggle vs Asynchronous NAND. No firmware can compensate for what is bad hardware (Async NAND) in the first place.
Edited by elreyhorus - 3/14/14 at 1:36pm
    
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Does anyone have any information about the product codes? What product codes do your SSD's have?

My current bad SSD: SV300S37A/120G.
SSD coming from RMA: SKC100S3/120G

I couldn't really find much info. Other than SKC100 has very limited supply if any at all and there are few old reviews dating to 2012. Is that the old good Taiwanese drive?
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Does anyone have any information about the product codes? What product codes do your SSD's have?

My current bad SSD: SV300S37A/120G.
SSD coming from RMA: SKC100S3/120G

I couldn't really find much info. Other than SKC100 has very limited supply if any at all and there are few old reviews dating to 2012. Is that the old good Taiwanese drive?

Not much info about this drive. Apparently it is a SSD geared towards businesses. 5 year warranty. Still SandForce. I doubt they would resort to using Asynchronous NAND in such a drive. However, I would run benchmarks immediately after installing the drive just to be safe.

http://www.kingston.com/datasheets/skc100s3_us.pdf
    
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I really have to give big hands up for Kingston European department. They offered to send the new SSD in advance and pay for UPS fees of sending the old one back.
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This guy is offering a more forgiving tone to Kingston.

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/1360-kingston-v300-asynchronous-vs-synchronous-benchmark

I do not forgive this underhanded, deceptive, deceitful move by Kingston. Moving from one type of Toggle/Synch NAND to another is excusable. Moving from Toggle NAND to Asynch NAND is completely inexcusable, even more so without forewarning the consumer.

Anyone who is reading this and considering the V300: do yourself a favor and buy another SSD. Don't fall for Kingston's siren song of low SSD prices. Kingston is not the price-performance leader here. Not when the entire SSD market offers similarly competitive SSD prices:
http://slickdeals.net/deals/ssd/

The M500 sells for around the same price and offers better performance without resorting to SandForce data compression tricks. Plus, Crucial is a Micron brand; Micron makes their own NAND Flash so they won't run into 'NAND supply issues' like Kingston!

There is no excuse to support a company that engages in this type of behavior. End of story.
Edited by elreyhorus - 3/17/14 at 11:51am
    
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post #79 of 165
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I do not forgive this underhanded, deceptive, deceitful move by Kingston.

Me neither.

The writer started off on the wrong foot with his egotistical "Let's Settle This" opening and lost me completely with the dismissively toned "then there's all the fuss about NAND changes." comment. He also never really addresses the pure ethics of it all. In fact the opening paragraph of the conclusion he seems to not really find anything wrong with their behavior. Apparently it is our fault as ignorant consumers and Kingston will just have to try and educate us better in the future.

"It was the relative silence of the change" Relative???? The information had to be dragged out of them.



P.S. Also, unlike AnandTech, Techgage and NordicHardware that guy appears to be using kickback tags (tag=viglink122491-20) for the V300 listing. I realize they have to make make a living but that always kind off takes a notch off of the credibility for me.
Edited by Scootcha - 3/17/14 at 3:42pm
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RMA'd my drive.
Well I guess it pays off to be European.

Could you please describe the procedure you followed to get a replacement? Did you contacted seller or Kingston directly?
I am from Estonia and hope I could do something about it too.
I have even contacted the consumer protecting department here in Estonia, but they replied officially that I can do little if the drive is conforming the speeds according to manufacturer datasheets (which leads us to ATTO).
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