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I have gone back and forth every new upgrade, and now..im in a pickle.

before, I went with the best performance for the money, or the best performance i wanted.

Right now, my 7950 sort of chokes at 1440p on a lot of games I play, and have some questions.


1) I know dual card setups are never perfect, and almost always 1 card will deliver a better experience, but for performance, would it be worth crossfiring my card?

2) If i do sell and upgrade to a card, it will either be a r9 290 or a GTX 780. I like the lower heat and MUCH lower power consumption of the 780, and will only cost me 150 bucks or so after I sell my 7950.

3) If i do grab a 780 or other single card from the Red team, will that smoothness of 1 card, less headaches of one card give an experience that is worth crossfiring my card now? I.e, would you get a single card in my case? Why?

4) How are SLI drivers compared to Crossfire? If I get the 780, i will probably SLI down the road a bit if needed.

And lastly, I know drivers are an issue

5) I recenty had a retarded driver hiccup on AMD and had to do a system restore to get my system running again (My 1440p monitor would randomly start displaying Red, Blue, Green and White to black gradients, almost like a test, and wouldnt stop even after reboots, thank god I had a second monitor to rollback). I know Nvidia is better about drivers, but in terms of Dual cards, are there still issues and compatibility complaints?


I just need some input, im leaning to a 780, mainly because of the single GPU, lower power than AMD cards (I love AMD, but, hey, I love preformance and experience more), and drivers work wonders with auto update.

Dont get mistaken...Im not set on anything, input on my options?





FYI, please don't say one 7950 OC (mine is) is fine for 1440p, im looking for a bit more power.
post #2 of 23
Both driver sets have their issues. Lately, Nvidia has had some very unstable drivers that have been dropping my 3DMark scores off, and perfroamance decreases in a few games. In my experience with the 7900 series, I used to have stuttering issues, so there is that to consider. Either way, neither of them are perfect.

The 7950 Xfired will bring a noticeable performance increase. Considering how inexpensive they are right now, I would say it is worth it, do to the potential of doubling performance. However, from what I have heard from others, Xfire drivers are notorious for more microstuttering than the Nvidia counterpart (not sure, just things I see here and there. Wanted to say so you can consider looking into it).

All in all, the added card will be worth it. And if you can, overclock the cards as close as you can to 7970 specifications. That, if stability is achieved, will create a beast of a machine. Buying the 780 is just a lot of money compared to the savings of the 7950.
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I run 3-way-SLI atm, won't be doing that again. SLI/CF is more bang for your bucks, but the hassle is not worth it in my experience. (Have had 1 CF setup, dual 580s, and tripple 680s)

If you can do what you want with one card, and you can afford a good card, that is my recommendation.
If money is an issue, or you need more performance for for UHD, surround ect, than there is no way around it..



As for driver issues, they are everywhere and the difference between the "teems" are strongly exaggerated IMO.

You have just been a bit unlucky with your last setup. Or done something stupid tongue.gif
post #4 of 23
I myself have had zero issues with SLI. I have used SLI 275s, 480s, and now 670 FTWs. I too have a 1440p monitor and on games like Crysis 3 the two cards really get put to work. For higher settings you will almost certainly need two cards, just my opinion though.
I say buy a second 7950, if you don't like it you can always sell it easily to the miners on here.
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OP single GPU is always going to provide a more consistent and smoother experience. so take your pick with a GTX 780 or R9 290. both are equal in performance. Given the current prices I recommend the EVGA GTX 780 Classified as its one of the fastest GTX 780 cards out of the box and probably the best built and overclocking GTX 780. most cards hit 1.3+ ghz and few hit 1.4 ghz. the card is a freaking beast and EVGA support is the best.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/63051-evga-gtx-780-classified-review.html
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/60269-evga-geforce-gtx-780-classified/
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/evga_geforce_gtx_780_classified_review,1.html

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130943

given the crazy demand/prices for AMD cards due to bitcoin / litecoin mining you can easily sell the HD 7950 for $400+. for another $160 grab the classy thumb.gif
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Both driver sets have their issues. Lately, Nvidia has had some very unstable drivers that have been dropping my 3DMark scores off, and perfroamance decreases in a few games. In my experience with the 7900 series, I used to have stuttering issues, so there is that to consider. Either way, neither of them are perfect.

The 7950 Xfired will bring a noticeable performance increase. Considering how inexpensive they are right now, I would say it is worth it, do to the potential of doubling performance. However, from what I have heard from others, Xfire drivers are notorious for more microstuttering than the Nvidia counterpart (not sure, just things I see here and there. Wanted to say so you can consider looking into it).

All in all, the added card will be worth it. And if you can, overclock the cards as close as you can to 7970 specifications. That, if stability is achieved, will create a beast of a machine. Buying the 780 is just a lot of money compared to the savings of the 7950.

its the inexpensive part I have to dissagree with. Minors have ruined the market on those 79xx cards.
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Both driver sets have their issues. Lately, Nvidia has had some very unstable drivers that have been dropping my 3DMark scores off, and perfroamance decreases in a few games. In my experience with the 7900 series, I used to have stuttering issues, so there is that to consider. Either way, neither of them are perfect.

The 7950 Xfired will bring a noticeable performance increase. Considering how inexpensive they are right now, I would say it is worth it, do to the potential of doubling performance. However, from what I have heard from others, Xfire drivers are notorious for more microstuttering than the Nvidia counterpart (not sure, just things I see here and there. Wanted to say so you can consider looking into it).

All in all, the added card will be worth it. And if you can, overclock the cards as close as you can to 7970 specifications. That, if stability is achieved, will create a beast of a machine. Buying the 780 is just a lot of money compared to the savings of the 7950.

Not in my case. First off, a second 7950 goes for over 400 dollars because of this stupid crypto craze. A 780 or r9 290 (seems to be a bit better in almost everything, maybe 5%) would only cost me maye 100 bucks or so if someone buys my 7950 on ebay
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OP single GPU is always going to provide a more consistent and smoother experience. so take your pick with a GTX 780 or R9 290. both are equal in performance. Given the current prices I recommend the EVGA GTX 780 Classified as its one of the fastest GTX 780 cards out of the box and probably the best built and overclocking GTX 780. most cards hit 1.3+ ghz and few hit 1.4 ghz. the card is a freaking beast and EVGA support is the best.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/63051-evga-gtx-780-classified-review.html
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/60269-evga-geforce-gtx-780-classified/
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/evga_geforce_gtx_780_classified_review,1.html

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130943

given the crazy demand/prices for AMD cards due to bitcoin / litecoin mining you can easily sell the HD 7950 for $400+. for another $160 grab the classy thumb.gif

basically this

except right now with pricing, i would go for a msi 780 lightning because they can be found for $499 at places like newegg every now and then.

this coming from one of the biggest evga fanboys alive tongue.gif

if youre willing to spend $20 extra or whatever it is atm, grab the classy for sure though. amazing card, and evga customer support is the absolute best.
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Originally Posted by raghu78 View Post

OP single GPU is always going to provide a more consistent and smoother experience. so take your pick with a GTX 780 or R9 290. both are equal in performance. Given the current prices I recommend the EVGA GTX 780 Classified as its one of the fastest GTX 780 cards out of the box and probably the best built and overclocking GTX 780. most cards hit 1.3+ ghz and few hit 1.4 ghz. the card is a freaking beast and EVGA support is the best.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/63051-evga-gtx-780-classified-review.html
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/60269-evga-geforce-gtx-780-classified/
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/evga_geforce_gtx_780_classified_review,1.html

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130943

given the crazy demand/prices for AMD cards due to bitcoin / litecoin mining you can easily sell the HD 7950 for $400+. for another $160 grab the classy thumb.gif

I have it up there for a 435 buy it now, with make an offer. Pristine condition, used for a few months. Would love to hold onto this Dual - X card, but my 1440p is hungry. The 290 and 780, while they do compete directly, it seems there is a bit of a pullout from th 290, consistantly about 5-7% better. Im looking into that EVGA card with dual bios. $520, and allows me a failsafe because I plan on flashing a different bios to get around the 109% power wall. (idk if its just reference cards or not)

I have always had great service from EVGA, from my 9800gt to my more recent 570. I just hope mantle doesnt make me regret getting Nvidia if I do.
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Right now is not a good time to buy a graphics card. Please do yourself a favor and wait a couple months.
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