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Unless your using a 4K monitor there is really no need for it.
Surround users need it.
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Thank you for the quick responses! That is some fine looking engineering on the Classified PCB. A shame the BIOS is holding it back though.

the classified has such a powerful pcb, i hate how much its being held back.
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People still game @ 1080? tongue.gif

I game at only 1200p, because I'm just a filthy casual of course tongue.gif
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post #74 of 89
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Unless your using a 4K monitor there is really no need for it.

Not true, some of use are rendering.
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Doubt it'll be called 780ti 6GB, probably Titan Ti but its still a rumour
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I feel like spending a ton of money on huge vram cards to "future proof" doesn't help anything except make you pay more per card. By the time 6 GB is actually the limiting factor there will be much more powerful cards at a cheaper price with the same or more amount of memory and generations newer. No need to spend extra money on vram that will be outdated in 4 years if your GPU is already outdated in 2 years. That just means you spent a bunch of money up front for a slightly less outdated experience if you keep your cards for over two-three years. Why not just save the money and upgrade sooner?

I've seen that said so many times, but it does increase the lifespan of a card...I paid $50 extra for a 512MB version of a 6800GS and it lasted fine until I upgraded to a 9600GS, I had a 256MB version later on too (AGP vs PCIe for spare rig) and it was noticeably slower when I actually got it. GPUs tend to last 2-3 years typically but vRAM can be a big part of them aging quickly, considering we're on the verge of finally going up from 1080p to 1440p or 4k and have new consoles too...I know that future ones are faster, but that doesn't stop it from being possible to buy big every few generations or buying one card now and more later (eg. People who got say, a HD4870/HD4890/HD5850 setup or the like and then upgraded to a HD7950 CFX or GTX 6*0/7*0 setup or who are now buying second hand last gen cards for SLI/CFX.)
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Lets face it tho...most ppl that care about 4k class res and already gear up with Titans / 780ti, won't be satisfied with 30Hz 4k panels...the amount of people that will get 4K this gen, are kinda beta testing or willing to accept a few shortfalls anyways.

What I am ranting about, is that 4K gaming is not really that relevant for getting or not a 780ti.
It will be a "future proof" card for 1080p / 1440p / 1600p etc, but trying to future proof for 4K with current gen cards, is futile.

By the time new panels come out ironing out the shortfalls probably DP 1.3 and whatnot will be out, then Maxwell will be out etc etc...
And we all know that the vast majority of enthusiasts that is willing to drop this kind of $ for GPU(s) and panels, will either wait to do it right (i.e. at least 60Hz 4K panel and ofc cards supporting the interface that can put out this refresh in 4K) or buy both current and next gen.

Not even 2 years ago, 4k was but a blip on the horizon. A year ago, there weren't any sanely priced panels at all, now HDMI has it's 2.0 version with 4k @ 60hz support (And DP having supported it for longer) I can see a sub-$1000 60Hz screen being out by the end of this year, the industry can move insanely fast when it wants to. Just last year a lot of people here were scoffing at the thought of a sub-$5000 4k TV or screen yet here we are with 28" ones launching at $700 right now...Not to mention, it's possible to get near 4k levels of resolution easily with surround and the like. (4k = 4x1080p)
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4k panels are already going for $600 now... DANG! the 3GB cards are not enough for this. looks like i'll be sticking with 1660p.
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I've seen that said so many times, but it does increase the lifespan of a card...I paid $50 extra for a 512MB version of a 6800GS and it lasted fine until I upgraded to a 9600GS, I had a 256MB version later on too (AGP vs PCIe for spare rig) and it was noticeably slower when I actually got it. GPUs tend to last 2-3 years typically but vRAM can be a big part of them aging quickly, considering we're on the verge of finally going up from 1080p to 1440p or 4k and have new consoles too...I know that future ones are faster, but that doesn't stop it from being possible to buy big every few generations or buying one card now and more later (eg. People who got say, a HD4870/HD4890/HD5850 setup or the like and then upgraded to a HD7950 CFX or GTX 6*0/7*0 setup or who are now buying second hand last gen cards for SLI/CFX.)
Not even 2 years ago, 4k was but a blip on the horizon. A year ago, there weren't any sanely priced panels at all, now HDMI has it's 2.0 version with 4k @ 60hz support (And DP having supported it for longer) I can see a sub-$1000 60Hz screen being out by the end of this year, the industry can move insanely fast when it wants to. Just last year a lot of people here were scoffing at the thought of a sub-$5000 4k TV or screen yet here we are with 28" ones launching at $700 right now...Not to mention, it's possible to get near 4k levels of resolution easily with surround and the like. (4k = 4x1080p)

This ten times 10. As much as I would want to buy every flagship card(Nvidia, pls, you can't release a flagship every 3 months! biggrin.gif) I'm still churning a heavily overclocked 7950 which probably will go CF. Why?

I'm still 1080p. Just when I'm going to upgrade to 1440p, 4k is announced and screws the script. While 1440p has been(mainstream) an extravaganza for conoisseurs, 4k is shaping to be an industry standard, and 1st gen 4k "ready" cards aren't ready to handle that pixel orgy. Even watercooled Titan SLIs struggle to get good fps marks. What I see as my upgrade path is buying a 1440p monitor once 4k hits with full force(which will drive prices down like dirt cheap), a monitor that will be easily driven by a humble 7950 CF. Despite having the money for a 4k setup, I'd rather wait for strong GPU+CPU and real 5-6gb VRAM 4k cards sold for sensible prices than 1080p/1440p<-->4k transition cards with a premium price from AMD and Nvidia. A year from now we will have hardware really designed to handle all that eye-candy, now where getting 1080p/1440p beasts but 4k tame cats. Meanwhile, the girlfriend will be happy to know this year we're spending two weeks in Ibiza instead of just one, due to my upgrade list being just a 4770k plus a mobo. tongue.gif
    
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Not even 2 years ago, 4k was but a blip on the horizon. A year ago, there weren't any sanely priced panels at all, now HDMI has it's 2.0 version with 4k @ 60hz support (And DP having supported it for longer) I can see a sub-$1000 60Hz screen being out by the end of this year, the industry can move insanely fast when it wants to. Just last year a lot of people here were scoffing at the thought of a sub-$5000 4k TV or screen yet here we are with 28" ones launching at $700 right now...Not to mention, it's possible to get near 4k levels of resolution easily with surround and the like. (4k = 4x1080p)

I don't see what you say contradicts what I say...

I know that we can do 4K-equivalent or higher resolutions with surround / multimonitor setups, and that we will be able to get "reasonably priced for enthusiasts" 4K monitors in 2014...
That said, those panels are far from becoming mainstream, actually far from simply matching the quality of a 27" 1440p today, mostly due to being 30Hz and the lack of frame pacing technologies.
Add the fact that most current cards, probably including the "new" GK110 6GB model (regardless of naming) won't really support 60Hz 4K resolutions from a single port, the fact that you need the same or more grunt to push 3x1080p/1440p with a 4K 30Hz, is kinda irrelevant.

People that will get a Titan/780 "kingpin" and use it for 4K gaming, will do it for epeen or "to see the fuzz about".
4K is far far from mature, and things will change in ways different than the required "VRam" etc...getting a card today thinking it is future proof for 4K, is simply not a wise choice.
Just get it and enjoy it to the fullest with what we already have, and are rewarding enough (i.e. for gaming, a 27~28 4K 60Hz will give you very little if anything as far as perceivable detail in normal viewing distances vs. a 1440p). People in need for more real estate while working with applications that need it, sure, will like the increased resolution, but 4K atm is just the FOTM and people through their stuff there so that they don't seem to have missed the train.
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This ten times 10. As much as I would want to buy every flagship card(Nvidia, pls, you can't release a flagship every 3 months! biggrin.gif) I'm still churning a heavily overclocked 7950 which probably will go CF. Why?

I'm still 1080p. Just when I'm going to upgrade to 1440p, 4k is announced and screws the script. While 1440p has been(mainstream) an extravaganza for conoisseurs, 4k is shaping to be an industry standard, and 1st gen 4k "ready" cards aren't ready to handle that pixel orgy. Even watercooled Titan SLIs struggle to get good fps marks. What I see as my upgrade path is buying a 1440p monitor once 4k hits with full force(which will drive prices down like dirt cheap), a monitor that will be easily driven by a humble 7950 CF. Despite having the money for a 4k setup, I'd rather wait for strong GPU+CPU and real 5-6gb VRAM 4k cards sold for sensible prices than 1080p/1440p<-->4k transition cards with a premium price from AMD and Nvidia. A year from now we will have hardware really designed to handle all that eye-candy, now where getting 1080p/1440p beasts but 4k tame cats. Meanwhile, the girlfriend will be happy to know this year we're spending two weeks in Ibiza instead of just one, due to my upgrade list being just a 4770k plus a mobo. tongue.gif
I'm kind of on the same boat. I hope to hang on to my current setup until 900 series cards come out. And by then, octa cores and 4K screens will hopefully be priced much lower than they are now.

Hopefully my next upgrade will be something like Intel Octa-Core + 990 + 32GB DDR4 Memory + 4K Monitor. And maybe replace my HDDs with SSDs. Now that is something that would actually be worthy of calling an upgrade from what I have, rather than these ~10% performance gains with the current quad cores.

On topic though, 780Ti should have a 6GB version I think. Surround users could really use those cards. And they have to sacrifice performance when going with Titans, not to mention money.
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