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New PC build -

I generally play a lot of games but I also do a good bit of 3d rendering Revit, Maya, 3ds, etc and Photoshop Reason behind the 8 Core CPU. Little bit of a bigger budget build then last time but i am not trying to go overboard. I feel as though this computer will last a solid 4-5 years. Tell me what you think, advice is always welcome.


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Budget without screen?
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Why are you looking at an 850W PSU? Your build proposal as it is won't pull any more than 300-350W from the PSU.

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Originally Posted by PontiacGTX View Post

Budget without screen?

I was shooting for 2,000 Dollars, I could effectively salvage stuff from my old computer such as hard drives and power supply if needed but i was going to hook up my old rig in my sig to my tv as a home theater.

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Why are you looking at an 850W PSU? Your build proposal as it is won't pull any more than 300-350W from the PSU.

I believe the 2 video cards, and the Cpu themselves take about 400 watts, Cpu is 125w and the video cards require a cpu of 500w or more for a single card so i was just trying to be efficient and also allow for future upgrades. Please correct me if i am wrong, I could bump it down and save a lot of money.
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With 24gb ram you are fine
http://www.luxrender.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=9545http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-8.html

And the i7 3770k is better for 3ds max and blender cycles

And for luxrender AMD kill nvidia ..
Edited by PontiacGTX - 1/9/14 at 10:42am
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With 24gb ram you are fine
http://www.luxrender.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=9545http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/fx-8350-vishera-review,3328-8.html

And the i7 3770k is better for 3ds max and blender cycles

And for luxrender AMD kill nvidia ..

Alright so are you saying 24 gigs of ram is all you need or please explain?

Intel benches wonderfully and i also love the thought of it but its honestly the price comparison and my personal bias towards Intel for there bloated prices lead me to AMD. I'll be willing to give them a try when i see they are still better at a competitive price, please correct me if im worng?

and please explain what you mean by this "And for luxrender AMD kill nvidia"

thanks for the reply
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Originally Posted by Pieze View Post




I was shooting for 2,000 Dollars, I could effectively salvage stuff from my old computer such as hard drives and power supply if needed but i was going to hook up my old rig in my sig to my tv as a home theater.
I believe the 2 video cards, and the Cpu themselves take about 400 watts, Cpu is 125w and the video cards require a cpu of 500w or more for a single card so i was just trying to be efficient and also allow for future upgrades. Please correct me if i am wrong, I could bump it down and save a lot of money.

 

The 500W recommendation is for peak-rated PSUs. A 500W peak-rated PSU would likely have a +12V capacity of only 360W, which is the same +12V capacity of some basically-ok 450W PSUs, and some pretty decent 400W PSUs and one very nice 360W PSU (the 360W SeaSonic G Series, but it's not modular at all).

 

Anyway, I apologize because I didn't check the quantity of the 760s. So, I have to change what I said. Your power consumption won't go any higher than about 525W. Seriously. That's it, unless you increase the voltage of the two 760s for extra overclocking (on top of whatever overclocking you could do with the voltages at stock).

 

So, a good quality-made 650W PSU would be a perfect fit for this build. From Newegg.com alone, there's the 650W Rosewill CAPSTONE Modular Cable Version Series for $79.99 shipped with the promo code EMCPWPA44 (and you'll need to actually select the free shipping option). This PSU is actually a superior unit (higher quality of power delivery) than the entire Corsair RM series. If the Rosewill 650-M isn't what you're looking for, then there's also the 650W SeaSonic G Series for $104.99 shipped from Amazon.com (here's Newegg's product page for it because it's much better than Amazon's). There's also the 650W XFX XTR Series for $116.66 after shipping. This PSU is a SeaSonic G Series, but it's fully modular. There are other good 650W PSUs to recommend, but they are too close to the $159.99 price that they're not worth mentioning.

 

Will you overclock your CPU? If so, then how high are you hoping to get it?

 

 

 

Edit: Luxrender:  https://startpage.com/do/search?cat=web&cmd=process_search&language=english&engine0=v1all&query=luxrender

 

It's rendering software, and he is saying that AMD GPUS kill NVIDIA's using this program.


Edited by TwoCables - 1/9/14 at 10:52am
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250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
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Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
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post #8 of 30
Luxrender is an addon for maya/blender/3das max.it can use various gpus for doing cpu job(for 3d rendering amd does better job given that they have better opencl performance)

24 gb can do the jon but it seems that price difference with 32 is little

Amd build

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2ysjD
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2ysjD/by_merchant/
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CPU: AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor ($149.99 @ TigerDirect)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Eisberg 240L Prestige 60.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD5 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($168.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($283.41 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($130.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($192.55 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($192.55 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Antec HCG M 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
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post #9 of 30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

The 500W recommendation is for peak-rated PSUs. A 500W peak-rated PSU would likely have a +12V capacity of only 360W, which is the same +12V capacity of some basically-ok 450W PSUs, and some pretty decent 400W PSUs and one very nice 360W PSU (the 360W SeaSonic G Series, but it's not modular at all).

Anyway, I apologize because I didn't check the quantity of the 760s. So, I have to change what I said. Your power consumption won't go any higher than about 525W. Seriously. That's it, unless you increase the voltage of the two 760s for extra overclocking (on top of whatever overclocking you could do with the voltages at stock).

So, a good quality-made 650W PSU would be a perfect fit for this build. From Newegg.com alone, there's the 650W Rosewill CAPSTONE Modular Cable Version Series for $79.99 shipped with the promo code EMCPWPA44 (and you'll need to actually select the free shipping option). This PSU is actually a superior unit (higher quality of power delivery) than the entire Corsair RM series. If the Rosewill 650-M isn't what you're looking for, then there's also the 650W SeaSonic G Series for $104.99 shipped from Amazon.com (here's Newegg's product page for it because it's much better than Amazon's). There's also the 650W XFX XTR Series for $116.66 after shipping. This PSU is a SeaSonic G Series, but it's fully modular. There are other good 650W PSUs to recommend, but they are too close to the $159.99 price that they're not worth mentioning.

Will you overclock your CPU? If so, then how high are you hoping to get it?.

Edit: Luxrender:  https://startpage.com/do/search?cat=web&cmd=process_search&language=english&engine0=v1all&query=luxrender

It's rendering software, and he is saying that AMD GPUS kill NVIDIA's using this program.

As far as overclocking i honestly don't see the need with the AMD-8 core cause its 4.0 GHz stock I don't plan on using the turbo either because i find them unreliable. . At least for what i need it for. I already have a 650 corsair power supply, I am not sure on the exact model name of it. I guess i could use it rather then buy a modular, Modular wasn't a big deal for me honestly it was just comparable to the other 850Ws so i chose it. Which means i will also use my current hardrives in my Sig Rig as well. also probably 8gigs of G.skill Sniper Ram and just add another 16 to it. Any other suggestions to trim the fat or beef it up is welcome.
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Intel build
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2ysyv
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2ysyv/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2ysyv/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Eisberg 240L Prestige 60.2 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Extreme3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($283.41 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($130.98 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($192.55 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition 2GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($192.55 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Gunmetal/Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($84.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: XFX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($77.99 @ NCIX US)
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