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I i some work for a friend and it was not supposed to be anything involved in the deal just helping a friend but he decided that after a week of helping him he has this extra PC that he had laying around doing nothing with. So i was like sweet because its not a bad PC at all but here is the issue with it plus the Specs of the PC. Will start with specs

 

(For a prebuilt the specs are decent IMO & was free)

 

Intel 3770 (IVY bridge)

 

128gb plextor M5P Pro SSD + a 1TB HDD

 

16GB of Adata 12800 (1600)

 

ThermaleTake TR2 600 (Yes I know not the best brand but its only a few days old)

 

P8H61M Pro / CM6630-8/DP_MB (Mobo)

 

Here i the 2 issues I am having. I cant get the BIOS updated to the latest. Everytime I try using the Asus EZ in the BIOS settings I get an error. I think the version that is installed is 0404 and I am not sure how to go about doing this.

 

& here is the biggest issue. He gave me a brand new GTX 660 TI to go with it. brand new in box so I opened it and installed it but what do you know it turns on , Fan spins but says no Signal everytime. I went into the bios and disabled the onboard video with no luck & i am not sure what to do from here. The PC works 100% perfect as long as I am not using the 660 ti. I currently installed a cheap card that came with the PC originally which was a GT 630 which works perfect.

 

I was reading online and someone said they kind of had the same issue but this was with a dell system and they did the following which I have yet to try. Here is the quote I found online from a user who experienced the same issue as me. I am going to try it I just wanted your opinions on top of this

 

Quote:
 

When I first installed my GTX 660 Ti board into a Dell Optiplex 7010 chassis all I had was a BLACK SCREEN. 

 

I had to change the following BIOS settings to allow the GTX 660 Ti board to operate.

 

General
Advanced Boot Options
X Enable Legacy Option Roms

 

Secure Boot
Secure Boot Enable
X Disabled

 

After making these two changes, the GTX 669 Ti video board would now operate.


With the Video board now operating, a new BIOS option appeared which I enabled, as follows:

 

Video
Multi-Display
X Enable Multi-Display

 

At this point I now loaded the drivers for the new graphics board and all appears to be operating as desired.

I also noted from another forum that there was questions about the "SERR Messages" BIOS option, it is ENABLED in my machine. 

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I have no idea if you even have those options or if any changes in the BIOS would fix it. What I recommend is loading the optimized defaults first. If that doesn't work, then try the 660 Ti in the black PCI-E slot. If it works, then, well, I don't know what that means.

 

As for updating the BIOS, what error are you getting?

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i ended up fixing the bios stupid me. i was using the wrong bios for the wrong board. this board only has x1 16x slot & x1 pci slot

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i ended up fixing the bios stupid me. i was using the wrong bios for the wrong board. this board only has x1 16x slot & x1 pci slot

 

Wow. That must've been a funny "duh" moment. :)

 

Anyway, the only other suspicion I have is the PSU. The 600W TR2 is likely crap. Most of the TR2s are. However, it's brand new...

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Hello,

I'll try to help with the graphics card....make sure your hooked up to a dvi cable and not hdmi. If ya can try both ways, do so...My guess is your loading into a non-hdmi screen with the card(bios startup screen), and that's why you see ...no signal......try going vga or dvi.. if you can hookup other monitors ...do so. It looks like you've already enabled that in your bios.
I don't have your board, but if you have onboard gpu, if see something called igpu in the bios, enable that as well, and you can hook up another monitor and to your onboard port. This will let you start up and configure and detect the monitor you want to use. That's how I do it anyway biggrin.gif
post #6 of 16

What about the GT 630? It works, but the 660 Ti doesn't.

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here is what I did notice the bios that was in the mobo was the second BIOS to ever be released which said something like 05-13-2011 so now that its up to date i noticed they did improve on the BIOS alot and even ad suppot for cards like the gtx 680 around 12-11-2012. im going to give the 660 ti another go with the updated bios and see if it does anything if not back to the drawing board.

 

the GT 630 works perfectly but the 660 ti is not working. I install the card and go to boot up the PC and all i get is a black screen that says no signal but I do see the fan spinning and or what not. As I said I gotta go get my daughter from school then I am going to uninstall the 630 and re try the 660 ti and hope for the best.

 

The PC has only sen about a month of use and the 660 ti is brand new in box or well was brand new in box when i opened it as well as the Power supply which is a thermaltake TR2 600


Edited by 4LC4PON3 - 1/9/14 at 11:53am
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Quote:
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here is what I did notice the bios that was in the mobo was the second BIOS to ever be released which said something like 05-13-2011 so now that its up to date i noticed they did improve on the BIOS alot and even ad suppot for cards like the gtx 680 around 12-11-2012. im going to give the 660 ti another go with the updated bios and see if it does anything if not back to the drawing board.

 

the GT 630 works perfectly but the 660 ti is not working. I install the card and go to boot up the PC and all i get is a black screen that says no signal but I do see the fan spinning and or what not. As I said I gotta go get my daughter from school then I am going to uninstall the 630 and re try the 660 ti and hope for the best.

 

The PC has only sen about a month of use and the 660 ti is brand new in box or well was brand new in box when i opened it as well as the Power supply which is a thermaltake TR2 600

 

Oh, that added support probably means that the GTX 660 Ti will work now! Interesting. I'm ever hopeful! Hurry back. lol (j/k.. please drive carefully)

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ok i am back with great news. the PC is running perfectly now after the BIOS update. I shut down 4-5 times and did a cold boot and still booted fine no issues so im guessing it was the BIOS and the board not supporting the card. As I said I noticed the BIOS that was loaded was an old set from 5-2011.

 

Thanks everyone for the help & im glad this thing is running. You cant beat a Free PC tho its a prebuilt it does have some good specs for what it is.

 

@TwoCables 

Should I be concerned about the TR2 600? I know thermaltake is not the greatest PSU and I am always aware of my hardware but is it that bad that I should be concerned (Fire, fried parts, High failure, etc...?)

 

If so what PSU would you recommend that is not junk that would suffice that wont cost an arm and a leg. Id hate to put a bunch of money into something free lol

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ok i am back with great news. the PC is running perfectly now after the BIOS update. I shut down 4-5 times and did a cold boot and still booted fine no issues so im guessing it was the BIOS and the board not supporting the card. As I said I noticed the BIOS that was loaded was an old set from 5-2011.

 

Thanks everyone for the help & im glad this thing is running. You cant beat a Free PC tho its a prebuilt it does have some good specs for what it is.

 

Oh man, that's a huge relief. Thank you for the update!

 

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by 4LC4PON3 View Post
 

@TwoCables 

Should I be concerned about the TR2 600? I know thermaltake is not the greatest PSU and I am always aware of my hardware but is it that bad that I should be concerned (Fire, fried parts, High failure, etc...?)

 

If so what PSU would you recommend that is not junk that would suffice that wont cost an arm and a leg. Id hate to put a bunch of money into something free lol


Thermaltake has some very good PSUs. It's just that most of the TR2's are kind of junk. With PSUs, almost none of them can be judged by their brand name, except for brands like Diablotek and a few others.

 

This article can help you find out if it's ok or not:

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/652549/on-thermaltake-psus

 

If it's one of the bad ones, then I don't know what would happen. It could be relatively harmless, or it could start creating some instabilities due to the unstable power delivery.

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