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I've read back and forth so I decided to test it for myself. Pretty close with the performance, however; the NZXT is quieter, has a logo that lights up, and kept the CPU about 2 degrees cooler.

Corsair H110



NZXT Kraken X60

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Also, what are we looking at exactly? You need to use highest core temp, not an average or a socket or motherboard temp. And OCCT Large data isnt a great temp test, small fft prime95 is much better. Or ibt after 10 minutes.

Hitting 2c lower with using different fans rated for different speeds and no report on the sound doesnt tell us anything either. The x60 might be 2c lower but its also more powerful fans that consequently are louder. They are also lower quality (ie lower cfm per dba).
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I never stated this was a scientific study, I believe most aren't. I'm assuming you have not had the two units yourself because there is a difference.

[1] The X60 block has more of a polished copper face opposed to the H110
[2] The pump on the X60 is absolutely no if, ands, or buts about it more quiet. This COULD BE due to a newer version of the same model or the bigger housing around the pump. Think of how the Samsung Galaxy S4 has like 15 different versions, but they are all S4's.

I wasn't looking for anything. Most people drink the koolaid and just randomly post comments without actually testing products for themselves. I think this is why AMD has such a bad rap. I just wanted to share the results of my nonscientific, non-controlled, review.
 
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Good info. I'm actually heavily debating switching to the X60 Kraken as my H100i isn't living up to expectations...
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no offense but a quick 10 minute test using OCCT isn't gonna do anything for anybody.

 

also, sure the 4770k is @ 4.4ghz but at what voltage?

 

you could have also used other testing programs too for a larger sample space. p95, linx, ibt, etc, etc so that people who use those programs can know what they are expecting. I/people wanna see how they fare against each other under "silent" settings, "normal" settings, "max performance" settings and so forth.

 

you should list your ambients, test setup rig (not just cpu and mobo), settings, etc. because just because you got a 2 degree difference in your test doesn't mean person B and person C will either. for all we know, they might get way better results on the corsair cooler. it varies way too much.

 

nothing scientific about these requirements, it's rather expected in a comparison.

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Originally Posted by alucardis666 View Post

Good info. I'm actually heavily debating switching to the X60 Kraken as my H100i isn't living up to expectations...
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I never stated this was a scientific study, I believe most aren't. I'm assuming you have not had the two units yourself because there is a difference.

[1] The X60 block has more of a polished copper face opposed to the H110
[2] The pump on the X60 is absolutely no if, ands, or buts about it more quiet. This COULD BE due to a newer version of the same model or the bigger housing around the pump. Think of how the Samsung Galaxy S4 has like 15 different versions, but they are all S4's.

I wasn't looking for anything. Most people drink the koolaid and just randomly post comments without actually testing products for themselves. I think this is why AMD has such a bad rap. I just wanted to share the results of my nonscientific, non-controlled, review.

I don't know what you mean by your AMD comment. AMD has done a lot to deserve their rap, like the 9xxx chips and Bulldozer. They had an awful CEO for a while back and those mistakes are being realized 3-5 years later, ie now. Good decisions they make won't be seen by the public until another 3-5 years after they're made, but now they've already lost their foundry, and with the 9xxx and other marketing goof-ups I'm not sure they've learned much. That said, they've been doing an amazing job consistently with GPUs for a while now, and their firmware has been great too.

I'm not stating on how to make a 'scientific' study. I'm simply stating the differences between a useful study and a not-so-useful study. It's pretty rare to find a good heatsink comparison. Moparman of OCN fame has done some great ones. Either take constructive criticism or not, but I don't think anyone here was scratching their head wondering whether the X60 asetek gen3 or the H110 asetek gen 3 was better then the other identical CLC.

As for your pump being 'ifs ands no buts more quiet', that sounds more like QC or just subjectivity. They are, no ifs ands or buts about it, the exact same asetek gen3 pump. The x60 no ifs ands or buts about it, is the exact same gen as the H110. There is a gen4 asetek, but I can assure you these units are not it. The only Gen 4 aseteks on the market right now are Zalman's LQ series and actual Aseteks, that you can only really purchase in bulk through asetek (a few find their way on ebay). Bear in mind that both Corsair and NZXT do not do quality control, Asetek does, so you can't even make any argument about how NZXT > Corsair because the corsair was faulty.

Tests like this are fine, but it's common knowledge the X60 and H110 are the exact same CLC, so it's kind of a goofy test. It's like saying 'I'm going to race a mustang i bought from Als car barn and Don's Car Emporium, and see which is faster'. It's the same car, no one was really confused on how they compared.
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Good info. I'm actually heavily debating switching to the X60 Kraken as my H100i isn't living up to expectations...

X60 is only a 'step' up from the H100i. You are only going to see about a 5-10C temp drop at most, on a high overclock. Not really worth it. For an appreciable jump up from the H100i, you'll really need at least a custom water kit, if not custom water loop.

Also, price is everything with cooling. H100i for $80 is a rip-off. For $50-60 it's the best heatsink in the world. This is especially true with heatsinks where half are rebrands of the exact same thing, and even if it isn't a rebrand, it's pretty much the exact same thing anyways since all that matters with coolers is the radiator size. Innovation, the CLC pump, the generation, how old it is, really account for only 5C in the most dramatic of circumstances, ie the TRUE-120 vs some brand new Havik 140 or H60 2013. The bigger the better when it comes to cooling, there isn't really any way to get around that.
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no offense but a quick 10 minute test using OCCT isn't gonna do anything for anybody.

10 minutes is fine, the problem is that OCCT (especially large data set) is useless for temp testing, unreliable and unpredictable, and not going to fully thermally push a CPU. Small FFT will push a CPU to it's max within 5 minutes thermally, and IBT even will do it within 10 minutes.
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also, sure the 4770k is @ 4.4ghz but at what voltage?

good catch. Differences in heatsinks get more dramatic at higher voltages/wattages. What's a 1C difference at a low voltage might be a 5-10c difference at a high voltage.

If you check the heatsink review I did in my signature, you'll see one that's generally accepted by the people who frequent this forum. We'd appreciate at least 2-3 mounts of identical thermal paste for each test, but most of us are okay as long as you at least use identical thermal paste, identical thermal paste application, and identical fans.

We aren't asking much here, but most of us are aware that the stock fans included with a heatsink can dramatically impact results. That's how you get misleading results, things like people saying the X60 is better then the H110, when in fact they are the exact same cooler, just the X60 comes with louder and more powerful fans. Of course it'll cool better with louder fans. You might as well posted a review saying "What's better, a heatsink with 2k RPM fans or 1K rpm fans?'

The Corsair h110 runs at 1500RPM. The NZXT X60 runs at 2k RPM stock. The NZXT fans are likely lower quality then the Corsair fans (based off, you know, the fact all nzxt fans are awful while corsair at least has a couple decent fans) so though they are more powerful, they likely have a worse CFM/dBa. So that explains your 2C difference...
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