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it doesn't matter if you lied, once they get the RMA, all it takes is some scraping from the parts and they'll be able to tell if it's their coolant or others.
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it doesn't matter if you lied, once they get the RMA, all it takes is some scraping from the parts and they'll be able to tell if it's their coolant or others.
And when I ask again that coolant use, what you want to respond?

If we answer what we already answered them, they come back to tell me that the warranty doesn't cover me because they don't use their coolant
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dude.. i have no idea what you're saying wth.gif
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Oh god Martin! I'm mobile so taking the short route on this one.

I'll just say, on the coolant part, that all the other Laing D5 pumps would require it too. They don't so....

Generally I don't think any of the manufacturers cover "leak damage". In custom parts that is generally a risk passed onto the user.

Most of my view comes more related to corrosion issues. Corrosion is happening, no block is immune to it, but there has been plenty of issues around nickel plating. As far as I know every manufacturer has a policy that require you use their coolant to ensure there is a corrosion blocker to slow the process down. That still won't stop it, but it slows it down enough to meet most EOL needs.

I have had many leaks in the various tests and builds I put together and leak testing without high heat isn't enough to be 100% protected. If there is a blockage or temporary pump stoppage, heat will rise and many leaks not found in cold can develop.

This is a rather unique one and I'm not saying what happened either way, I just like to promote awareness that not using a manufacturers coolant does leave the door open for many questions. The same goes for pump tops. I have personally flooded out a couple of DDC pumps because I didn't tighten the top down correctly.

I'm human..smile.gif

You just don't typically see mechanical failure in D5 pumps, even electrically they are very solid due to the metal casing acting as a heatsink. I have run D5s for years, never once seen any sign of bearing wear.

I think the oring leaked and ran dry. It could have come that way but the hand tightened ring is pretty easy to access.

OK. not playing the dark side.

I would recommend closely looking at the actual o-ring and the mating channels. If you can find a casting flaw in either, that would probably help.

I hope it works out, just be cautious about coolants. I am totally a distilled plus biocide user myself, but I also prefer solid copper and shy away from nickel plating. Pay attention to those coolant requirements, they are there for a reason particularly for plated parts.

My radiator self destructed with nothing more than water sitting in it. Galvanic corrosion is a real risk especially with plated parts.

Cheers for a good resolution!
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dude.. i have no idea what you're saying wth.gif
I've had a very hard time trying to understand what he's been saying throughout this whole thread headscratch.gif
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I would recommend closely looking at the actual o-ring and the mating channels. If you can find a casting flaw in either, that would probably help.

Great advice. Eze2kiel, can you make some more pictures including the o-ring?
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so if Nickel plating is not as good as cooper in terms of corrosion prevention in a loop, since most radiators are brass or copper. why do manufactures plate them? take for example Koolance CPU380i is essentially a copper block, but they plated it with nickel. what gives?

i remember back when Koolance used to use Gold as plating for their blocks as well. i actually had their CPU300 block, and CPU330 block both were gold plated. so i guess that's super bad if you mix it with brass copper radiators?
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so if Nickel plating is not as good as cooper in terms of corrosion prevention in a loop, since most radiators are brass or copper. why do manufactures plate them? take for example Koolance CPU380i is essentially a copper block, but they plated it with nickel. what gives?

i remember back when Koolance used to use Gold as plating for their blocks as well. i actually had their CPU300 block, and CPU330 block both were gold plated. so i guess that's super bad if you mix it with brass copper radiators?
Aesthetics. I think you're overthinking things a little too. There are many users here who use both copper and nickle in the same loop with brass radiators and have nor problems at all. Like I said, it would take many years for corrosion to become an issue with just copper, nickle and brass. More than likely longer than you would own said waterblocks
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Aesthetics. I think you're overthinking things a little too. There are many users here who use both copper and nickle in the same loop with brass radiators and have nor problems at all. Like I said, it would take many years for corrosion to become an issue with just copper, nickle and brass. More than likely longer than you would own said waterblocks

interesting.. good info.

i do also recall Koolance used to, or perhaps still, use Aluminum based radiators. i remember years ago i owned an all-in-one EXOS2 system from Koolance that was based on Aluminum rad and gold plates CPU block. come to think of it, i don't even think the coolant that came with it was distilled water either, i think it was mineralized.
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It was probably some special mixture that drastically slows galvanic corrossion. AFAIK, the Corsair CLC units have aluminum radiators. At least the H100 anyway(second paragraph down)
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