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DirectSound 3D: Not Supported in Vista

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I just read about this today in MaximumPC. I haven't seen it posted anywhere else.

Vista will not include DirectSound 3D. This DS3D API set is used by many games for positional sound or 5.1 sound. That means native OS support for EAX is gone, among other things. Microsoft's justification is that most new games are using OpenAL. However, that still leaves many legacy games without surround sound (i.e. Call of Duty 2). Creative Labs is creating an application called "Alchemy". This app will emulate the DS3D and translate the command calls into OpenAL. However, it is Creative Labs... I personally do not trust their programming skills after the year of X-Fi problems. Adding a translation layer requires some additional processing and another venue for bugs. Since Creative Labs is developing it, I can assume it will be proprietary. That may mean those who are not running Creative sound cards maybe be SOL.
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Well I dont seem to have any problems in Vista and 5.1 with my X-fi. Im not saying the article is wrong but i can safely say this is not the case for me.
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They're just saying that Hardware Accelerated sound isn't supported. Software (emulated) still works perfectly, just uses up more CPU time than before.
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Thats Odd. As I have Hardware acclerated enabled in games and im good to go.
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Thats Odd. As I have Hardware acclerated enabled in games and im good to go.
Yeah, I know. I've been reading a lot of conflicting information. When I was running Vista I selected HW acceleration and it worked. EAX worked, too...
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Perhpas they got it sorted in RTM ?
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I never installed build 6000. I had the last build before it went RTM and it all worked.
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i have 6000 rtm x64 and x32 installed
using x-fi extreme music with the desember drivers

in f.e.a.r i have no suport for eax what so ever
so basicly i need two operating systems running so i can play f.e.a.r
couse sound is terrible in plain sterio

this is alsow confirm by Catherina-CL at creative that there will not be any suport for d3d eax in vista
http://forums.creative.com/creativel...essage.id=1694

i hope thy will make a 3'rd party program for this to work
but will it happen not likely by ms ore creative or it would have been made by now
maby some genius at home can doo it for us
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post #9 of 29
another reason why MS is going to have major problems with thier first vista realese so many problems ive read....and now sound


this windos world is crazy!
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post #10 of 29
good news i think

there is a "kx project" going on at driverheaven and has for some time it seams

in short it seams this program enables cards that dont have D3D EAX (amongst other things) suport to enjoi it non the less by software rendering D3D before it goes to the soundcard

tho this app is not made for vista persay
but ass far as i can understand this should give us what we miss in vista

the dude working on this software is going to start working on x64 vista drivers for this app soon (missing some hardware he stated)
(edit) hmm vista x32 maby good to go then anyone tested it?



did not reed the whole section on the stuff(would take years) but i think i get the ide

x fingers and all for this dude folks


link for those intersted in digging more into this
http://www.driverheaven.net/forumdisplay.php?f=67
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