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Other than for stress test and noise reduction why do i need an After market cooler?

post #1 of 20
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My little athlon II x3 has been doing 3.9 for 2 years on the stock cooler
Under the max temp
Who actually hit 100% in real life for more than an hour?
Running prime 95 for 24 hours is not more stable than prime for 30mins.
These are myths .
post #2 of 20
Computers that do folding/render/encoding can sit on 100% for hours/days.
30mins is no enough to tell if it is stable. It wouldnt of even gone though all the different tests in that amount of time.
Also as more time passes more heat and resistance inside the chip builds up.
While I dont run stress tests for 24 hours I give it atleast 6-8 hours.

If I was only running it for 30mins then Id call 5.1ghz stable but that fails on core 7 after 2 hours no matter what voltage I use so 30mins is defantly not enough.
post #3 of 20
An obvious troll thread on an overclocking enthusiast forum ... especially considering it's post #2 from OP.

The "stock" heatsink fan on an AMD Athlon II X3 is actually a decent unit, and comparable to many third-party coolers on the market. Just because it's stock doesn't mean it's crap. If you compare that Athlon II HSF to something like, say, a Intel i7-3770K stock HSF - you'll quickly notice how inferior the Intel stock HSF is compared to your heat pipe-endowed high fin density copper baseplate AMD heatsink.

As for Prime95 for 24 hours vs. 30 minutes being a myth, you're clearly misinformed on the topic. I've personally seen many systems that will run prime95 without error for an hour or two, and fail 3-8 hours into a run. Same holds true with Memtest86 - you can run 3 passes and be fine, and fail on the 4th pass just because some satellite whizzed by your house at the wrong time of day. Seriously, stability is PROVEN over time, not in such short timespans.

Greg
post #4 of 20
Thread Starter 
I understand what you are saying but how many people on here buy a system just to FOLD?
I see people that just want to play bf4 @ 60 fps Overclock and run day long stress test and buy 100+ coolers
that they dont really need.
post #5 of 20
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"If you compare that Athlon II HSF to something like, say, a Intel i7-3770K stock HSF - you'll quickly notice how inferior the Intel stock HSF is compared to your heat pipe-endowed high fin density copper baseplate AMD heatsink"

Umm ok thats the point, Ive ran 3.9 off stock for 2 years
so what your saying is that intel makes superior CPUs
Shipped with a trash Hsf ?
So im a troll if i say my 70$ Cpu runs great OVERCLOCKED on the stock fan?
Really?
post #6 of 20
There are people here on OCN that build quad-CPU systems with 64 cores in one system just to do protein folding. I kid you not. There are literally dozens here that are running 3 or 4 graphics cards and do Bitcoin mining on them.

Who said they don't need those coolers? You? Clearly they thought they needed it, either for e-peen or performance reasons, and when it comes to sucking money out of people's wallets -- e-peen usually wins, and performance always counts. =)


Greg
post #7 of 20
Thread Starter 
There are people that have 10 kids and 4 wives "I kid you not"
Thats not the point After market cooler make minimal difference
before 4.5. And long stress test are a waste of time.
If you dont fail in the first 30mins its a 90% chance you wont fail at all

Edit:Bitcoin mining? 6 months ago that was a joke
Edited by STUNTDEVIL - 1/9/14 at 9:11pm
post #8 of 20
Ok, this is way too obvious guys.

Don't engage this one.
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post #9 of 20
Quote:
Originally Posted by STUNTDEVIL View Post

"If you compare that Athlon II HSF to something like, say, a Intel i7-3770K stock HSF - you'll quickly notice how inferior the Intel stock HSF is compared to your heat pipe-endowed high fin density copper baseplate AMD heatsink"

Umm ok thats the point, Ive ran 3.9 off stock for 2 years
so what your saying is that intel makes superior CPUs
Shipped with a trash Hsf ?
So im a troll if i say my 70$ Cpu runs great OVERCLOCKED on the stock fan?
Really?
No, I believe he saying youre a troll for spouting disinformation based on your (limited) experience with one single chip. Yes, it is possible to moderately overclock most recent CPU's on their stock cooler, however NO the maximum results will not be any similar between an aftermarket cooler and the stock ones. Becasue YOU don't have the need for it, because your limitations are not temperature based doesn't mean it is the case for others, as it is one of the most limiting factors for overclock in general and for most people here, and if you are not able to understand something like that, then yes i'd agree with giving you the distinction of "troll".
post #10 of 20
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Please dont think im a troll
Im a long time lurker
And ive learned so many thing from here
But I have OPINIONS that have been tested by
real world experiences
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