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Yes and obviously it's not superior to standard cooling because they are already trying to enlarge the surface area of the radiator, so basically this is a vapor chamber with some exotic liquid that doesn't work as well as they hoped.

The original MP1120 cooled like top tier coolers, and MP1140 is significantly bigger .. never mind you are only trolling anyway.
post #202 of 287
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The original MP1120 cooled like top tier coolers, and MP1140 is significantly bigger .. never mind you are only trolling anyway.

No it didn't! Stop posting misinformation about this product. Show my a real world benchmark of this product compared to any other coolers on the market with an overclocked processor with core clock of atleast 4.4ghz. Just because you want this product to perform really well in your fantasy world doesn't mean that the rest of us have to believe the hype, not one single review of any of the versions, not one single benchmark posted by anyone else but the people behind this thing. Please stop your propaganda because no one will believe the hype without concrete numbers.
post #203 of 287
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Well, unless you have something very very expensive setup, air is what cools it. rolleyes.gif
Yeah, and is this going to cool any better than anything else that uses air?

Way to miss the point.
post #204 of 287
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Yeah, and is this going to cool any better than anything else that uses air?

Way to miss the point.

It seems in its radiator part, there's a liquid flowing. So if you want "liquid cooling" because you think it's definitely better than heat-pipes, this thing should be what you ask for.
post #205 of 287
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It seems in its radiator part, there's a liquid flowing. So if you want "liquid cooling" because you think it's definitely better than heat-pipes, this thing should be what you ask for.
It's just a giant single heatpipe, nothing special.
post #206 of 287
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It's just a giant single heatpipe, nothing special.

In the pictures, it looks to me exactly like a radiator (pipes going through everything plus a bunch of tiny fins), so not like the fin-stack on an air cooler?
post #207 of 287
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He tried to explain that it can only be shaped like this. Their technology wouldn't work otherwise. It has to be shaped exactly like this because it uses gravity to move the liquid/gas. They could build something that feels more sane and where everything is concentrated on the CPU socket area, but that would then only work if the board is always used horizontally, would not work in a normal tower case.

I just feel the whole thing might have been a bad idea from the start. It seems not flexible enough with regards to what the engineers/designers are allowed to do. This cooler has to be a lot better than normal cooling for it to have a market.

Yup...a thermosiphon.
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post #208 of 287
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It's just a giant single heatpipe, nothing special.

In the pictures, it looks to me exactly like a radiator (pipes going through everything plus a bunch of tiny fins), so not like the fin-stack on an air cooler?

It's a vapor chamber, that's why the radiator is angled to be more in vertical position but that doesn't mean it's some kind of holy grail of cooling technology. Vapor chambers have been around for a long time, they tried a new spin on old tech but from what we see here is that their spin is not working because they are increasing the radiator size without letting anyone test the first model.
post #209 of 287
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It seems in its radiator part, there's a liquid flowing. So if you want "liquid cooling" because you think it's definitely better than heat-pipes, this thing should be what you ask for.
I'm ignoring the trolls mate.

As it uses refrigerant (R134) it has better cooling ability than water from the get-go .. which means less condenser area needed. I suppose a circulation pump could be added, but that's more money and more complexity so more chance of problems and failures.

I'm very interested in these coolers. Captherm is not the usual company that designs and builds computer coolers. They are a very hi-tech company dealing with cooling some very expensive and hi-tech equipment. Much more sophisticated than heat pipe technology. At first I had my doubts if they would succeed. But after putting years into R&D there is no reason to suspect them of failing. If there was they would cut their losses and move on to something else.
post #210 of 287
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As it uses refrigerant (R134) it has better cooling ability than water from the get-go .. which means less condenser area needed.
Nope.exe

You could have unicorn blood inside the vapor chamber and nothing is going to change the interaction between the metal fins and the air being moved by a fan. It doesn't matter what you're using to move the heat to those fins, it will still cool the fins just like every other cooler ever made.

For 250 bucks you can buy a heck of a lot more fins and fans than this thing has.
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