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Originally Posted by Dyson Poindexter View Post

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When the heck did I say that?! I have no clue what it will cost.\

UPDATE: aha! I didn;t actually say that, oddworld did. I just screwed up the quotation spoiler.doh.gif

fixed now.

P.S. did that poor guy live? What happened?
Edited by bombastinator - 1/12/14 at 11:23am
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P.S. did that poor guy live? What happened?
Haha, I have no idea. Mine above is (obviously) shopped. Here's the original:

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I think its a very expensive manufacturing technique unless they somehow got some magic behind to producing them cost effectively...the alloy is then CNC milled to the shape of the product according to the man in the CES video, which of course adds more cost since I've dealt with parts produced through CNC machining at work which are far more costly than traditional machining here in LA.

It is cost effective for large heat exchangers, since a several ton plate of high grade stainless steel, titanium or other exotic alloy is more expensive than a thin sheet explosively bonded to a mild steel plate. The mild steel then provides the strength and the exotic material the corrosion resistance.

For smaller things it is less so, however if the $250 MSRP is correct....

For $250 you can put together a very respectable CPU loop.
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there's also explosive stamping. Basically you either blow the metal into a one sided mold, or use varying amounts of explosive against an unmoving surface like the ground wtih a metal plate on top.

Interesting, I've not come across that before. I'll have a look at it.

Going off another link however it looks like they are using explosion bonding of copper, titanium and stainless / aluminium:
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Where the explosives come into the mix of this sci-fi creation is with the metal base that is placed on top of the CPU to transfer heat to the system. Captherm place 1x1m square plates of copper, titanium, various grades of aluminium and stainless steel on top of each other and then place on top of that ~500lb of high explosives. The explosion causes the metal plates to bond together into a single hermetically sealed lump and the sample below is what is left after the explosion. This mixture of metals is what gives this remarkable cooler its high level of efficiency and revolutionary cooling capability.

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Not sure about the science of high efficiency, to me the more material interfaces the heat has to go through the worse the efficiency. Still, I'm looking forward to seeing benchmarks.
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Maybe some kind of supercritical fluid? You have to wonder why explosives are needed to produce it...

The process is used to bond all the metals into a sheet that they then mill into the cold plate...
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The process is used to bond all the metals into a sheet that they then mill into the cold plate...

Right,explosion welding is used to create a clad metal with an anti corrosive coating.
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The process is used to bond all the metals into a sheet that they then mill into the cold plate...

Oh lol I thought they were using it to make the coolant
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Have there been any temperature figures released yet?
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I'm 99% sure that this will be a horrible disappointment performance wise, especially compared to high price.

I want to believe it will succeed but reality is that there's been other companies who've tried to achieve better cooling than conventional air and water coolers but every single one of them has failed and gone bankrupt soon after.
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I'm 99% sure that this will be a horrible disappointment performance wise, especially compared to high price.

I want to believe it will succeed but reality is that there's been other companies who've tried to achieve better cooling than conventional air and water coolers but every single one of them has failed and gone bankrupt soon after.

Well this company won't go bankrupt. They are already in the business of offering cooling needs for data centers which explains why they could spend 8 years on RnD for this.

Still I will wait patiently for benchmarks.
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The gap these fill is between air and water. "phase" is only describing the change from liquid to gas in the low boiling point solution, it is nowhere near true phase cooling that uses a compressor, condensor, evaporator, etc.

i realize that the reason i speculate it fills such gap and as they or atleast cool clouds is touting BETTER temps than air cooling other wise this product would already be bunk.
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