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Questions About Unconvential Sleeving Materials (such as conduit, pipe, hose, tubing)

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So here's the situation.

I'm building a new computer. My friends on Facebook are surprised because I am a woman and I'm building a new computer specool.gif but I digress. The last one I built was back in 2008, which is kind of a long time ago as far as computers go. My E8400 and MSI GeForce 9800GT have served me well for quite some time. However, a few months ago my rig finally died on me. I believed it to be the Silverstone Strider at first but after testing and paperclip testing I determined that my Mobo- which had absolutely no sign of life- had finally taken to the eternal silence or whatever you would prefer to call the state of "hardware death" that eventually occurs.

That being said, I decided it was time to build a new rig. Warning: LONGWINDEDNESS BEHIND CUT! (Click to show)
Since I have a work provided laptop, I really don't need to hurry to build a computer. I mean, I'm on this laptop almost every day all the time. And I work from home so it's like... how much more do I need to sit at a computer, really?

But you know, at some point, it becomes necessary to use your own system. I really don't like to use the laptop for personal computing, not because I am conscientious but because quite frankly I hate laptops. I like tablets, but I really hate laptops. I hate this keyboard. I want to shove an icepick through it. I'm sorry if this offends any laptop lovers out there. But I will never understand. Ever. Even if you shoved an icepick at me to try to convince me to.

So really, you know, I need a computer.

Also I can't play Everquest which is probably 90% why I need a computer at all. The other needs I have for a computer are minimal these days with the devices that are available to do all kinds of things with the Internet. I mean I guess I need my computer and Photoshop to design my websites and party blog and work on things for freelance clients, but I could just do that on my other laptop (which I also really hate).

But Everquest. I really need to play that occasionally. It's kind of an ongoing affair or whatever.

Also I am highly keen on trying out the Everquest Next and Landmark when those are available so really I needed some hardware updates anyway.

Also I have always wanted to do some computer customization or modding or whatever you want to refer to it as. I'd like to mod the case, and I just might... if I can gather up the time and energy and the tools, I might hack the thing that Newegg shipped to me in two days for free (they are insanely fast when you live in PA, I tell you).

But one thing I know for sure is I'm doing some aesthetic primping of this thing.

And I also know I do not want to sleeve with any kind of fabric or plastic weave. In fact anything woven is out.

I am thinking of using unconventional sleeving materials in my case.

But I have some questions because although I am extremely artistic, I am not extremely educated on electrical engineering and sciencey hooha.

So here are my questions for those of you who either are educated on these things, or have experience with them.

ELECTRICAL CONDUIT

I am thinking of using this inside my case as cable sleeve, specifically on bundled cables (rather than sleeving them). I have searched the forum for posts with "conduit" and have come up with a few but not very many. I have also looked at other places on the net for this, and noticed this in a few builds.


Now, I must note that some of these look like they use split loom which is poly or plastic which is, I'm assuming, non conductive material. The last one, District 9, looks like it uses actual conduit inside the PC. Though Bill and his fellow modders are adept with paint (a total understatement if ever you read one), so this could be plastic loom painted as well and testament to painterly prowess.

So my questions are: can you actually use real metallic conduit inside a case? I have like 25 feet of the underground stuff left over from my summer pool installation project that I would like to strip and use if this is safe to do. If it is safe, does it need to be kept clear of any mobo components? Wouldn't metallic conduit short the mobo and/or any circuitry cards? Am I answering my own question here? Is that conduit in those builds actually plastic?

I mean if I can't use the metallic stuff, I can sell it finally and just buy some plasticy goodness at the Home Depot since I can also paint fairly well (though no where near the skill level of auto detailing and insane modbuggery I see here). But I thought it would be worth it to ask.

Can this be used in the case at all? Yay or nay on sleeving? What about touching the computer parts?

Alright and other sleeving materials...


RUBBER HOSE/TUBING

Has anyone done this? Is it doable? Why don't more people do this? Does this cause any wire insulation problems? How would one seal this? Would something like heatshrink work to seal this?

FLEXIBLE LIQUID COOLING TUBE

Same questions as above.

SILICONE TUBING

Clearly silicone is a semiconductor. So my question for this one is can it be used without worry for the computer components? And then if so, same questions as the two materials above.

Obviously I'm looking for something that looks metallic or glossy and futurey to sleeve my cables. I guess it might not even technically be sleeving them, but covering them. But this seemed like the best forum to ask in. I've been looking at mod pics all day and I see plenty of tubing but it's 99% of the time used for the cooling and I think I have seen ONE tubing as sleeve today on another forum but the tubing was not commented on much in the log and the build was not finished... so not sure about the viability of using it as "sleeve."

I'll shut up now. All your insights and wisdom to my tubing and conduit woes are very welcome and appreciated. Thanks!
post #2 of 3
When the magic smoke is let out of a component it goes to Silicon Heaven.

As long as the insulation on your wires is OK I can't see any reason why you can't use metal tubing as a conduit.

One difficulty I can foresee is stuffing all the wires down a longish tube with a number of bends in them but tying string to the wires to pull them through should get round that.

Found an ancient mod on Bit-Tech

Kobalt's mod


Edited by Big Elf - 1/10/14 at 9:51am
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post #3 of 3
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Thank you for digging that one up for me.

My cousin does some tower electronic stuff for AT&T and when he helped me put the electric in for the pull this summer he used a tool that kind of fishes the cables through the conduit. You tie the wire around the cable in the tool and crank the tool to pull it towards you through the pipe. It worked well for something like 50 feet. It was really cool.

Quick searching found me this one (and it IS called fish tape haha): [URL=Amazon fish tape link[/URL]
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