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Are these fans good for watercooling guys? I am going to be using my h100 for a little longer but getting ready to buy two ST45 240mm rads for my haswell build (i7 4770k and gtx 780) and want a mild overclock on both.. I know they 1.55 mmh20 at 1600rpm, but I'm not so sure thats good or bad.. other fans have higher airflow at 1800-2000 rpm but I am most likely going to run any fan I use at a slower speed my fan controller.

I like the aesthetic look, I know there are better fans for the price most likely.. simple yes or no answer would work for me..
Edited by JAM3S121 - 1/10/14 at 1:04am
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Are these fans good for watercooling guys? I am going to be using my h100 for a little longer but getting ready to buy two ST45 240mm rads for my haswell build (i7 4770k and gtx 780) and want a mild overclock on both.. I know they 1.55 mmh20 at 1600rpm, but I'm not so sure thats good or bad.. other fans have higher airflow at 1800-2000 rpm but I am most likely going to run any fan I use at a slower speed my fan controller.

I like the aesthetic look, I know there are better fans for the price most likely.. simple yes or no answer would work for me..

Good performance, good looks but too noisy for that price tag.

They are ok fans, but at 1600 rpm they are noisy imo. I have 9 Noiseblocker e-loops 1600 rpm on my NZXT fan controller and always have them on the lowest setting because of the noise they generate, especially on radiators.

Hope that helps.

EDIT: I have them in Push/Pull which makes them produce more noise
Edited by Eddie Smurphy - 1/10/14 at 1:19am
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Thanks you for the input!
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Good performance, good looks but too noisy for that price tag.

They are ok fans, but at 1600 rpm they are noisy imo. I have 9 Noiseblocker e-loops 1600 rpm on my NZXT fan controller and always have them on the lowest setting because of the noise they generate, especially on radiators.

Hope that helps.

EDIT: I have them in Push/Pull which makes them produce more noise
The problem with those fans is when you use them in pull, it seems. Have you tried running only push?
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The problem with those fans is when you use them in pull, it seems. Have you tried running only push?

No only in push/pull and before I mounted them I did a quick test without restriction. They were louder that my nzxt case fans. I am very disapointed with them when it comes to noise considering I paid more than 20$ per "silent-fan"...
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Great fans IMO with one caveat as has already been mentioned... don't use them in Pull as they generate a very annoying whining sound. I'm using 13 of them in my current rig and they look amazing and performance to noise ratio is about as good as one can hope for.

For what it's worth I've got a 360 rad and I have 3 of the Phobya e-Loops in Push and then I've got 3 Cougar Vortex HDB on the other side in Pull. No adverse effects with this setup -- doesn't create any turbulence or any additional noise.

I compared the Phobya's with Scythe AP-14's and AP-45's (as well as some Corsair AF/SP) and the Phobya's won my heart with their amazing looks combined with great noise/performance -- just keep in mind that they DO NOT work well in Pull. The Scythe's were pretty nice and had a bit more static pressure at the same RPM but they produced what I can only describe as an audible "bearing" noise that sounds kind of like a light/high-pitched whistling sound. The Scythe's would probably be better for rads with higher FPI. I preferred the sound signature of the Phobya e-Loops in my setup with a low-FPI radiator. The Phobya's are absolutely dead-silent when undervolted using my Aquaero controller.

To me the Scythe's only live up to their reputation when it comes to pushing max amount of air through a radiator at high RPM's with a relatively low noise level considering the high RPM level. For instance the AP-45's at full-blast 2150rpm produced less noise compared to other fans at the same speed, but still weren't what I would consider anywhere near "quiet". When you slow everything down then suddenly the playing field becomes a lot more even and I begin to prefer certain other fans over the Scythe's.

The Phobya's really complete a themed look of red/black and look way, way better than the Corsair AF/SP with red rings, here's a quick shot of mine FWIW:

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Great fans IMO with one caveat as has already been mentioned... don't use them in Pull as they generate a very annoying whining sound. I'm using 13 of them in my current rig and they look amazing and performance to noise ratio is about as good as one can hope for.

For what it's worth I've got a 360 rad and I have 3 of the Phobya e-Loops in Push and then I've got 3 Cougar Vortex HDB on the other side in Pull. No adverse effects with this setup -- doesn't create any turbulence or any additional noise.

I compared the Phobya's with Scythe AP-14's and AP-45's (as well as some Corsair AF/SP) and the Phobya's won my heart with their amazing looks combined with great noise/performance -- just keep in mind that they DO NOT work well in Pull. The Scythe's were pretty nice and had a bit more static pressure at the same RPM but they produced what I can only describe as an audible "bearing" noise that sounds kind of like a light/high-pitched whistling sound. The Scythe's would probably be better for rads with higher FPI. I preferred the sound signature of the Phobya e-Loops in my setup with a low-FPI radiator. The Phobya's are absolutely dead-silent when undervolted using my Aquaero controller.

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The Phobya's really complete a themed look of red/black and look way, way better than the Corsair AF/SP with red rings, here's a quick shot of mine FWIW:

I've seen many times people advising against mixing fans in push/pull.
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I've seen many times people advising against mixing fans in push/pull.

So have I, that's why I felt it was worth mentioning that I have experienced no problems or negative effects what-so-ever in mixing the fans I have mixed.

Every situation isn't identical and it's silly to make blanket statements. My experience flies in the face of what I see people recommending. Does that mean that every scenario in-which people mix fans in push/pull will be successful? No. But in my current scenario there are no problems at all.
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excuse my stupidity but when you reference "pull" you mean the fans are mounted inside the case and pulling air through the rad instead of the fans being mounted in a way that they are pushing the air through right?

like if i had a bottom mounted radiator and wanted to put the fans to push they would be on the bottom pushing air through?
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Push/pull implies you have fans on both side of the rad going in one direction. So one fan is pushing air into the radiator, one fan is pulling air out of the rad.

On the bottom, to push you would have the radiator with the fan sandwiched in between the rad and case (assuming intake). Fan is on top of rad on top of case if you re exhausting.

Someone else correct me if I'm wrong.

For reference:
http://www.overclock.net/t/742234/poll-radiator-fans-push-or-pull#post_9490981
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You should keep in mind martin's conclusion after that particular test though, and that was that at higher rpm's push was better, lower pull, and in a mid range of rpm's it didnt make much of any difference.
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