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Will still not use a zowie mice until they pick omron and get a 800dpi step.
Well sorry to disappoint you but from why I've heard zowie isn't giving up on huanos switches and those dpi steps.. At least in the near future. They don't want to be like the big companies, they aim for the market for those players who want to escape from companies like SS, razer etc, and try something different.
But hey we never know if they change up their way of viewing things.
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Will still not use a zowie mice until they pick omron and get a 800dpi step.

That's what I thought coming from a Deathadder. I've been quite happy with my FK. I went down to 450dpi from DA 800dpi fairly easy. The switches aren't bad in my opinion, spamming clicks for pistol shots in BF4 felt a little weird at first, but all is good now. If you never tried a Zowie mouse it's worth a try, I was very skeptical at first also.
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Will still not use a zowie mice until they pick omron and get a 800dpi step.

That's what I thought coming from a Deathadder. I've been quite happy with my FK. I went down to 450dpi from DA 800dpi fairly easy. The switches aren't bad in my opinion, spamming clicks for pistol shots in BF4 felt a little weird at first, but all is good now. If you never tried a Zowie mouse it's worth a try, I was very skeptical at first also.

That low DPI in windows and rts/mobas is just not an option.
It's way, way to low.

And altering sensitivity in most of those games makes the feel garbage.

The only viable option would be to try and get used to 1150 dpi.
But having a hard time with that high dpi aswell, but better then way to slow like 450.
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400-450 dpi is fine for everything if your used to using an intelimouse for years anything higher feels horrible to me, its just preference
Edited by backie - 1/11/14 at 3:14pm
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That low DPI in windows and rts/mobas is just not an option.
It's way, way to low.

And altering sensitivity in most of those games makes the feel garbage.

The only viable option would be to try and get used to 1150 dpi.
But having a hard time with that high dpi aswell, but better then way to slow like 450.
I can hardly tell any difference between my Zowie @2300dpi with 0.35 in-game sense against my G400s @800dpi with 1 in-game sense or my Intellimice with 450dpi and 2 in-game sense. Using 3/11 or 4/11 in windows doesn't either feel very strange. Maybe your OCD is getting the best out of you?
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That low DPI in windows and rts/mobas is just not an option.
It's way, way to low.

And altering sensitivity in most of those games makes the feel garbage.

The only viable option would be to try and get used to 1150 dpi.
But having a hard time with that high dpi aswell, but better then way to slow like 450.
I can hardly tell any difference between my Zowie @2300dpi with 0.35 in-game sense against my G400s @800dpi with 1 in-game sense or my Intellimice with 450dpi and 2 in-game sense. Using 3/11 or 4/11 in windows doesn't either feel very strange. Maybe your OCD is getting the best out of you?

You clearly missed my point biggrin.gif
You can't alter sensitivity in alot of mobas,rts since it messes with cursor. Known problem for sc2 example.
So I have to use 1150 dpi or 450dpi. 450 way to low and cannot increase windows sens.

I might be able to use lower windows sens and 1150 dpi, but some say It's bad, some say It's ok.
But I prefer to have everything 1:1 according to mouse input.

But then again that's "problems" that seems un
Edited by Nivity - 1/11/14 at 4:03pm
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400-450 dpi is fine for everything if your used to using an intelimouse for years anything higher feels horrible to me, its just preference

Ofc It's preference, I don't type what others want biggrin.gif That's what I need and 450dpi is way way way to low.
Not everyone Is equal in this world wink.gif
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400-450 dpi is fine for everything if your used to using an intelimouse for years anything higher feels horrible to me, its just preference

This is kind of the situation I find myself in. I have always used the WMO before the FK, and I have had no trouble using ingame sensitivity settings (while keeping windows sensitivity at 6/11) to get the overall sensitivity that I want. Even at 450 dpi, I have the ingame sensitivity quite low (like 1.75 in Counter Strike :GO).

Not saying this as critique, but more just asking because I do not know. Why exactly can you not just adjust for having the correct DPI step in the ingame sensitivity ? If I used 800 DPI at 0.5 sensitivity, can't I just use 450 DPI at 1.75 sensitivity? (or whatever the exact number is that gives the same overall sensitivity)
post #19 of 70
I quite like the Huano switches on the FK. They are much lighter than the ones on the AM were and they feel a lot better. I just wish the side buttons on the FK stuck out like the ones on the AM do. I really liked the AM's side buttons because they were very easy to press. Although since they were easy to press I read that some people did not like them because they were pressing them accidentally. Never understood that though. I play pretty hectic on low sense and even when I'm whipping the mouse around as fast as I can in some intense situations I never hit the buttons. I would prefer to have an easier time knifing/meleeing than a button that is harder to press. Oh well I suppose some people just feel more comfortable holding the mouse closer to the buttons than I do and it leads to accidents.

As per sensitivity, I really didn't find a lot of trouble using the 450 DPI step either. I don't use a calculator to find the perfect sensitivity though (since not all games use a numerical value, some use awful sliders!). Instead I just bought a big mousepad and set my sensitivity so that moving my mouse from one end of the mousepad to the other turns me around 315 degrees. My sense is ~18.9in/360. I figure that if you have the space you might as well use it so you can be more precise with smaller movements. The only reason I didn't do the full mousepad's length for a 180 is because it's WAY too low for me and I wanted some room once I was looking at my enemy to keep aiming at them without lifting the mouse immediately. Works out very well. smile.gif
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the thing I think with dpi is that on all the new mouse with dpi increments of 1 is that they use a onboard processor to achieve this and that causes latency. The thing with zowie mice is they achive 3 steps of dpi via no processor and by just running native and dropping counts for the 450-1150 settings. Zowies method is more reliable as it is a 100% jitter proof method however at these low dpi settings jitter is impossibly low on the competitor mouse brands and only gets bad at the higher dpi settings and zowies method of dropping counts still causes latency just like the processors in thous other mice so with both methods your not getting that 100% raw feeling you remember from using a older sensor like the a3060 running at 400dpi native like in a mx518 or some thing, these older sensors that run at the lower dpi that you want are probably well out of production at this point sooooo.

I think its best to do one of the following.

either horde older mice that have the sensor with the native dpi your like. and keep using them for ever

or if you have a modern mouse with increments of 1dpi and a processor maybe set it to zowies settings and get used to their dpi and then transfer to a zowie mouse in the future because their method is slightly better for 100% peace of mind.

zowie haven't shared any plans to use the 3310 sensor and their 3 present dpi settings will probably have to change when they use that if they want to keep the same lift off distance so maybe this advice could change at that time. which could be pretty soon.


in regard to higher dpi I still don't think they have created a method to use it properly things like the new Naga that can run at super high dpi then intelligently and automatically drops to 100dpi for finer moment is probably the future maybe wait till a brand masters that kind of auto scaling technology before you plan to seriously game at high dpi unless you play battlefield or some thing. Frostbite causes so much inconsistent latency's and delays that you will never get a truly RAW experience in that game regardless of what mouse you use or input mode you turn on in the options menu
Edited by he4th - 1/12/14 at 8:50pm
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