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if it doesn't have to be ASUS, Gigabyte just released a specifically named Z87X SLI board
although I think that one goes for around $150

p.s. my 4670K is great for gaming, there is almost no difference aside from a couple of frames per second between mine and my buddy who got the i7.

Are you talking about this board? GA-Z87X-D3H http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128591

I'm also building a new PC and this is what I have so far:

$200 Creative ZXR – http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AQ5PK6I
$200 AKG Q701 – http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004444O3W

$235 I5-4670K – http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CO8TBOW
$30 CM 212 fan – http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002G1YPH0

$170 840 EVO SSD – http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E3W1726
    
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Are you talking about this board? GA-Z87X-D3H http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128591

I'm also building a new PC and this is what I have so far:

$200 Creative ZXR – http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AQ5PK6I
$200 AKG Q701 – http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004444O3W

$235 I5-4670K – http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CO8TBOW
$30 CM 212 fan – http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002G1YPH0

$170 840 EVO SSD – http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00E3W1726

Not to derail or anything... But I doubt you will enjoy those 701s for gaming.
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Ditch the sound card at first. Only buy it if you are not satisfied with what you get through the board. You might want to see what the cheapest still recommended USB DAC is you can get instead of a sound card.

I might be biased as seeing those $200 for the card gives me a headache as you are obviously trying to save money with that very cheap Hyper 212+ cooler for example. Choosing a Thermalright HR-02 Macho for $50 might make you happier as its fan is a lot better and running slower, might be helping with the audio experience around the PC when trying to overclock a good amount. The fans on the Noctua NH-U12S or NH-U14S coolers do not have any PWM ticking, so you might also want to take a look at those.
Edited by deepor - 1/14/14 at 4:27pm
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Not to derail or anything... But I doubt you will enjoy those 701s for gaming.
Why's that? Which headphones do you recommend for gaming? I currently have the ad700's.

I looked at this: http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envys-headphone-gaming-guide-updated-1-9-2014-shure-srh1840-added
And this: www.overclock.net/t/1014902/ocns-most-recommended-audio-products/0_50
And a whole bunch of other threads and it seemed like that was the best option. I listen to music and movies as well but I don't notice any poor experience with my ad700 + xfi extreme gamer. I have a strong preference towards competitive FPS games.

Also, I didn't consider the Sennheisers because I've tried the HD555's before and they squeezed my head WAY too much. It was painful.

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Ditch the sound card at first. Only buy it if you are not satisfied with what you get through the board. You might want to see what the cheapest still recommended USB DAC is you can get instead of a sound card.

I might be biased as seeing those $200 for the card gives me a headache as you are obviously trying to save money with that very cheap Hyper 212+ cooler for example. Choosing a Thermalright HR-02 Macho for $50 might make you happier as its fan is a lot better and running slower, might be helping with the audio experience around the PC when trying to overclock a good amount. The fans on the Noctua NH-U12S or NH-U14S coolers do not have any PWM ticking, so you might also want to take a look at those.

Ehh, I could downgrade to the SB Z for $100, but I read that there's definitely a noticeable difference between the two. Also, I switch back and forth between 2 speakers and my headphones daily, so the Audio Control Module would come in handy for that. Also, the SB Z has a lot of features I like such as customizing the directional mic so that it doesn't pick up speaker noise, keyboard noise, or even if you move your head a foot to the side it will stop picking up your voice.

From what I've read in the past I never really considered a USB sound card over an internal one. You can tell by the areas I do and don't compromise that I have a strong preference towards competitive FPS games. I'm a long time competitive CS 1.6 player.

As far as the cooler, I'm using the 212 with my current PC and I can't hear it at all. If the HR 02 isn't at least 10c cooler than the 212 for $20 more then I don't think it's worth it. I just tried looking up a comparison but I couldn't find any.

I'm only looking to do the basic 4.4 overclock.
    
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Expecting 10 C improvement out of the HR-02 would be pushing it, I'm guessing. Its main thing is that it's super large to be quiet. The Hyper212+ you looked at can still kind of compete because it just runs its fans faster.
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Why's that? Which headphones do you recommend for gaming? I currently have the ad700's.

I looked at this: http://www.head-fi.org/t/534479/mad-lust-envys-headphone-gaming-guide-updated-1-9-2014-shure-srh1840-added
And this: www.overclock.net/t/1014902/ocns-most-recommended-audio-products/0_50
And a whole bunch of other threads and it seemed like that was the best option. I listen to music and movies as well but I don't notice any poor experience with my ad700 + xfi extreme gamer. I have a strong preference towards competitive FPS games.

Also, I didn't consider the Sennheisers because I've tried the HD555's before and they squeezed my head WAY too much. It was painful.

They are by no means bad sounding headphones. Though, these headphones lack much bass (if you like bass) for explosions etc, they are very neutral sounding. They really shine with classical/string music. These are open headphones and they didn't have good positional sounds for FPS. They definitely pass for gaming and will sound better than headphones you'd buy in a store (especially when amp'd). But I'd recommend these for classical and heavily string instrument music listeners. For movies, I prefer a closed headphone and one that has deeper bass, like the Beyerdynamic line. So I'd look at the Beyerdynamic line or something from AKG that is a closed headphone such as the K550/1 line. Also, the bumps on the headband of the K/Q701s is a major complaint for comfort when used for multiple hours. Of course, this is all preference...

Also, for around ~200 dollars, the Schiit Modi and Magni DAC/AMP will sound much better than any sound card.
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Here you go: http://pcpartpicker.com/ this will let you sort through different parts to find the lowest cost, compare features and sort by features.
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Here you go: http://pcpartpicker.com/ this will let you sort through different parts to find the lowest cost, compare features and sort by features.
Yeah, that's a pretty cool site but it's only so helpful... For example, SSDs: http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/internal-hard-drive/#t=0&qq=1&s=129000&R=5,4 even after narrowing it down a bit there's still hundreds to choose from and there aren't any other criteria listed (such as speed, longevity, and durability/dependability) that would help me narrow it down even further.
There aren't any benchmarks (which is the #1 criteria) for GFX cards. And there aren't gaming benchmarks yet for CPUs. And the CPU benchmarks that do exist are pretty outdated. Though it does seem useful for cases, PSUs, & maybe memory.
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These are open headphones and they didn't have good positional sounds for FPS. They definitely pass for gaming and will sound better than headphones you'd buy in a store (especially when amp'd). But I'd recommend these for classical and heavily string instrument music listeners. For movies, I prefer a closed headphone and one that has deeper bass, like the Beyerdynamic line. So I'd look at the Beyerdynamic line or something from AKG that is a closed headphone such as the K550/1 line. Also, the bumps on the headband of the K/Q701s is a major complaint for comfort when used for multiple hours. Of course, this is all preference...

Also, for around ~200 dollars, the Schiit Modi and Magni DAC/AMP will sound much better than any sound card.
Don't have good positional sound? Both of the links I provided say otherwise... and I've never seen anyone recommend closed headphones for positional gaming before... that seems odd...
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I guess it depends on what you want to do exactly. You only said you are into competitive CS. Are LAN tournaments still a thing today? You straight up can't use open headphones at LAN tournaments in a noisy environment in my opinion. I tried using open Sennheiser headphones a decade ago playing Q3 in a LAN tournament, and it was terrible, so that's first hand experience. The open headphones were great at home, better than closed headphones.

I like in-ear best today because they seem cheaper for what you get (and I'm a cheap bastard), are great in hot summer days, and because it does nothing to my hair. biggrin.gif
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I guess it depends on what you want to do exactly. You only said you are into competitive CS. Are LAN tournaments still a thing today? You straight up can't use open headphones at LAN tournaments in a noisy environment in my opinion. I tried using open Sennheiser headphones a decade ago playing Q3 in a LAN tournament, and it was terrible, so that's first hand experience. The open headphones were great at home, better than closed headphones.

I like in-ear best today because they seem cheaper for what you get (and I'm a cheap bastard), are great in hot summer days, and because it does nothing to my hair. biggrin.gif

Hmm, can in-ear buds give the same quality as regular open-air headphones? I've never looked into them. I just assumed they were all worse. I also heard that something about their design is worse/more damaging for your ears. But this was a long time ago.
    
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