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Greetings.
I know, unmatched memory sticks are bad for anything. I just happened to go with my current setup because I got these sticks for a stupidly low price at the time, and it was 12gb too.

Anyway, a few questions:
1. Matched memory sticks, is the dual-channel support really worth it? Will I see any difference in framerates and/or loading times? I currently have very low frames in games that aren't very demanding on GPU/CPU and I really wonder why, I doubt the FX-6300/HD7870 combo is THAT bad.

2. Is more memory better? Will I see any difference in going for 16gb instead of 8gb?

3. And lastly, is faster better? The only thing I know is that CL defines how fast a memory really is, regardless of their speed: CL7 1333 will be faster than CL9 1600, and anything faster (1866 and up) has to be manually configured in the BIOS.

Slap as much knowledge here as you can. I'm very eager to learn more about this whole technology world!
And, as usual, thanks for reading.
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Originally Posted by leonmorland0 View Post

Greetings.
I know, unmatched memory sticks are bad for anything. I just happened to go with my current setup because I got these sticks for a stupidly low price at the time, and it was 12gb too.

Anyway, a few questions:
1. Matched memory sticks, is the dual-channel support really worth it? Will I see any difference in framerates and/or loading times? I currently have very low frames in games that aren't very demanding on GPU/CPU and I really wonder why, I doubt the FX-6300/HD7870 combo is THAT bad.

2. Is more memory better? Will I see any difference in going for 16gb instead of 8gb?

3. And lastly, is faster better? The only thing I know is that CL defines how fast a memory really is, regardless of their speed: CL7 1333 will be faster than CL9 1600, and anything faster (1866 and up) has to be manually configured in the BIOS.

Slap as much knowledge here as you can. I'm very eager to learn more about this whole technology world!
And, as usual, thanks for reading.

1. Yes
2. No
3. What you know is wrong smile.gif
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post #3 of 7
1) You are going to notice the difference between single and dual channel, even in games on a relatively slow platform.
2) It depends on how much applications you run at the same time, but 8Gb is more than enough for any modern game.
3) 1333C7 and 1600C9 will have roughly the same performance. Right now DDR3-1866 is roughly where normal applications stop scaling from faster RAM.
post #4 of 7
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1. Yes
2. No
3. What you know is wrong smile.gif

I see.
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Originally Posted by Sam OCX View Post

1) You are going to notice the difference between single and dual channel, even in games on a relatively slow platform.
2) It depends on how much applications you run at the same time, but 8Gb is more than enough for any modern game.
3) 1333C7 and 1600C9 will have roughly the same performance. Right now DDR3-1866 is roughly where normal applications stop scaling from faster RAM.

Ah, that makes it a lot clearer. I digged around and found someplace else that C7 at lower speeds was actually faster than C9 1600. Glad to know now that such information is incorrect.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by leonmorland0 View Post

I see.
Ah, that makes it a lot clearer. I digged around and found someplace else that C7 at lower speeds was actually faster than C9 1600. Glad to know now that such information is incorrect.

It perhaps was correct with older gen AMD CPUs, but new CPUs make a good use of faster RAM smile.gif
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If you have an APU, then you want the fastest RAM you can possibly get.

For regular CPUs, it's not as important once you get over 1600
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