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Makes me appreciate how easy it is overclocking these days. The old ways were a pain in the behind

d0's were a pain in the behind compared to haswell? Was my first OC CPU and while sandy/ivy seem super easy in comparison, haswell can be obnoxious or very tricky if you don't follow careful procedure
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Why is your QPI VTT so high, too much can actually cause instability too!
It should be 1.20-1.24v for 1333Mhz, 1.26-1.32v for 1600Mhz, and up from there with Ram speed.

You seem to have messed with too many settings for a simple OC.

The chip should do 3.8Ghz at 1.30v easily being a D0. Use Realtemp for cpu temps, speedfan is junk.

You dont need to be messing with skews, that will result in some super odd behavior if you dont have a scope to really test.

IOH and ICH is the southbridge, you have no reason to be over volting these, it can help if you run multi GPUs with OCs.

If i was you, id go back to default, set 21x Multi, 180Mhz bclk. Vcore to 1.32v, LLC to Enabled/Medium-High.
Set the Ram to its XMP profile, or set the primary timings only, and set the Ram voltage as specified for your kit.
Set the QPI Ratio to the lowest (but not slow mode).

My chip needed 1.312v for 4Ghz, and 1.40v for 4.2Ghz, so you just have an average chip. And i had HT enabled.

Also is the bios updated?

I just followed this guide, I actually had no idea what some of those settings really did, it's my first time ever in BIOS rolleyes.gif

BIOS isn't the latest one. Didn't want to take the risk of a failed flash. I think it supports the D0 though. (ver. FB - 05/04/2009)

RealTemp and SpeedFan show the same Core Temps for me, no difference whatsoever.

I have set the RAM to XMP Profile1, it now shows 1600mhz for the "normal" values : but since i have the BClock set to 180 with a RAM multiplier of 8, it shows 1444mhz actual.

Since you suggested I set the DRAM to specfified voltage, I put it to 1.64 (I'm confused as it says Profile DDR Voltage is 1.65V but I can also set DRAM manually to 1.64 or 1.66. Which one does it actually apply? Do they need to be ~same values or should I set the manual DRAM control to Auto?)

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I agree with the above poster, 1.34V VTT shouldn't be needed yet, that is more for 4ghz + uncore speeds.

The ICH shouldn't need any voltage bump, IOH usually only needs a small bump, 1.14V should be fine for 4ghz + cpu & uncore frequency.

Seeing this thread yesterday I pulled out the i7 920 for some benching, been a while since I used it

I bumped the IOH as you suggested to 1.14V while using jasjeet's suggestions.
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I'm getting stuck at Windows Error Recovery screen, the keyboard does not respond and I have to wait for the timer to go down while the repair option is selected.

It then goes into a loop, rebooting and rebooting until the Error Recovery Screen pops up again, where I can never do anything with my keyboard, then it reboots again and again and agai...
It's a vicious cycle... hmmsmiley02.gif



Edit: I went back to BIOS, set the XMP to Disabled, RAM timings to 8-8-8-24-2, DRAM to 1.64V, QPI/VTT to 1.26V.

I got a 124 BSOD telling me to adjust the the QPI/VTT. I lowered it a notch. if doesn' help, I will raise it from the previous 1.26V a notch.

Edit: It didn't work, I raised it a notch over 1.26 and set the timings to 8-8-8-20-0 (All auto)

I continued to get the vicious cycle described above. But this time, I also got to the Startup Repair screen where Its asking me if I want to restore using System Restore. I click Cancel... Its attempting repairs anyway, I'm waiting now.
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I don't think I ever saw a boot loop issue with my x58 ud3r (gone now, currently using a Gigabyte x58-OC). If you have a ps2 keyboard around those won't usually get lost on an error recovery screen.

Playing with IBT at 4.4Ghz on my 920 now, 1.34V vcore, 4.2Ghz uncore at 1.3V, 2100mhz memory at 1.66V. Disabled the power saving features & set 1.14V IOH, everything else normal auto values.
    
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Update your BIOS, its probably full of bugs, lots of what your saying could be fixed with a BIOS update. Reset CMOS then use the on board Bios flash utility to flash the Bios file from a USB Stick.

1.66V on the Ram Voltage is fine, it usually droops at load, so youll be fine at up to 1.68v.
Once you set the bclk and XMP, then adjust the Ram Multiplier so that the Ram speed is under the rated Ram Kit spec. Atleast for now, once the CPU is stable we can bring this back up.

8-8-8-20-0 - Doesnt sound right, try 9-9-9-28-2T for now. The gigabyte sometimes does a RAM training, where after a some unsuccessful boots itll loosen the Ram timings, so you can sometimes expect them to seem slightly tight. But if the XMP is set it shouldnt get this wrong.

Vcore - CPU Core Voltage
QPI/VTT - Intel Memory Controller Voltage. Needs more volts if running more than the spec 1066Mhz Ram speed, I believe stock is 1.20v.
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I don't think I ever saw a boot loop issue with my x58 ud3r (gone now, currently using a Gigabyte x58-OC). If you have a ps2 keyboard around those won't usually get lost on an error recovery screen.

Playing with IBT at 4.4Ghz on my 920 now, 1.34V vcore, 4.2Ghz uncore at 1.3V, 2100mhz memory at 1.66V. Disabled the power saving features & set 1.14V IOH, everything else normal auto values.

He should also turn of Turbo if he hasn't done so already. It seams he's go a bit of a stubborn chip. I was thinking that he should be able to run 3.8 with speed step on but apparently not. Well if he can first get it stable with power saving off then its one step closer to getting it working with it enabled.
    
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I usually leave turbo enabled to be able to set the 21x multi on the x58-oc. It can be set in bios to 21x while disabled but in windows it comes up 20x, & says 20x in bios on the reboot. Turbo keeps it locked at 21x. on the desktop.

Can't remember if the ud3r was the same, I mostly used a 980x in that one & never needed to be concerned with a limited multi.
    
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Think you need Turbo on the Gigabyte to use the 21x Multi.
On my X58 UD3R, if you entered x21 Multi it would enable Turbo automatically iirc. But if you use x20 or below then you'll want to disable it.
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Alright, I have been at this my entire weekend, fullday... To no avail whatsoever...

I'm going to try and Flash the BIOS with the latest non-beta version.

Then I'll start from scratch with baby steps, taking photos of the BIOS settings for every single step. Maybe even videos...

I'm determined to methodically eradicate the possibility of failure, until it's finally impossible to fail.

I'll be back... cigar.gif
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Think you need Turbo on the Gigabyte to use the 21x Multi.
On my X58 UD3R, if you entered x21 Multi it would enable Turbo automatically iirc. But if you use x20 or below then you'll want to disable it.
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I usually leave turbo enabled to be able to set the 21x multi on the x58-oc. It can be set in bios to 21x while disabled but in windows it comes up 20x, & says 20x in bios on the reboot. Turbo keeps it locked at 21x. on the desktop.

Can't remember if the ud3r was the same, I mostly used a 980x in that one & never needed to be concerned with a limited multi.

Yeah I'm not to sure about how the turbo behaves on an EX58-UD3R. On my own Asus P6T its either regular turbo that messes around with the multi on a core by core bases or no turbo meaning the multi maxes out at x20. If its possible to have the turbo pin the multi to x21 on an ud3r then I guess its alright to leave as is.
    
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