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post #1 of 11
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Hi,

In my current rig there is no more space for any HDDs, so im planning on building a NAS with my HDDs (currently 3, max. 5). Case: Lian Li PC Q25.
My requirements are pretty low. I just want to use them as storage for media files which I can access from my main rig, so I dont want to buy anything thats total overkill.

Im having a hard time getting an overview over the different Motherboards and CPU choices there are for NAS builds.

I'd be happy if anyone could help me out to get an overview for the different choices for my needs. Using Motherboard chipset vs SATA cards? Amount of RAM?
Here are a couple of choices I've thought about:
http://www.asrock.com/mb/amd/e350m1/ + SATA controller card
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/E2KM1IDELUXE/ (features i dont need(wireless, usb3 boost))
The new FM2+ boards with the A78M chipset have 6 SATA3 but the weakest APU (A4-4000) has a TDP of 65W which is way too high.
http://www.giadatech.com/index.php?act=pShow&id=37 <- My current nr. 1 choice, since it is specifically build for NAS.
post #2 of 11
What format are the drives in? What OS do you want to use on your NAS? If all you want is more hard drive space in your computer you could get a new case and a SAS card or you could get the external boxes that connect with esata or USB (can't remember there names currently). If you want to do a NAS and it's only for file storage the requirements are very low, do you have any old parts laying around?
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What format are the drives in? What OS do you want to use on your NAS? If all you want is more hard drive space in your computer you could get a new case and a SAS card or you could get the external boxes that connect with esata or USB (can't remember there names currently). If you want to do a NAS and it's only for file storage the requirements are very low, do you have any old parts laying around?

Currently NTFS. I was thinking of FreeNAS. I dont want the hard drives near my desk, they will be in another room where they dont bother me, thanks for the idea though. I have an old PSU laying around which I will use, nothing else.
post #4 of 11
If you have data on those you would have to use Flexraid or a windows OS or linux, other things will reformat them. Freenas likes lots or RAM if you are going to be using ZFS, i think 8gb is the minimum recommended. There are other things like unraid, unraid you could run on very basic hardware like 2gb of RAM and any recent processors would work (celeron, atom, low end AMD, or you could use faster ones if you are using lots of apps). How many drives do you want to be able to use, what about future expansion? Most motherboards are 4-8 SATA ports, if you want more you would need an add-on card. They usually give you another 8 ports or more. Do you have a budget?
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post #5 of 11
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Couldnt I remove all the data from 1 HDD then install freeNAS on it and move back the data then insert the emptied HDDs and let it reformat?
I like the Web Interface u can control FreeNAS with and the big community behind it, but if theres a viable alternative that doesnt require that much performance im open to it. I guess I cant just use any Linux distribution, would it have to be some kind of server build?
I currently have 3 HDDs, I dont think I'll ever go beyond 5.
The PC Q25 Case costs me 100 Euro, PSU is available so my Budget is max. 200 Euro for Motherboard, CPU & RAM.
post #6 of 11
Another alternative is to go the netgear route. buy a netgear readynas 4 bay. it means you sacrifice 1 drive bay but will probably cost similar as building your own nas. hard drives dont have to be the same size either, so if you run out of space just buy a bigger drive and replace it to get more storage space.Transfer data off 1 drive, install blank drive into nas configure it, transfer data to drive in nas, keep adding data and drives til everything is moved across, JUST MY TAKE ON IT!
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I like that idea rsands16. Although the specification of the netgear readynas (Intel® Atom 2.1GHz dual core, 2GB RAM) will be much weaker than a self build one, the included OS and warranty are nice to have.
I decided to build a 1TB performance HDD into my main rig with a self made mounting mechanism. My 250Gb SSD wont be able to keep all my games that I dont play that often, and accessing games over NAS is a hastle and leads to performance problems. The diskless version costs around 210Euro, which is well within my budget.

My HDDs have been running horizontally for now, so I'm worried that running them vertically (netgear NAS) will lead to problems. Or shouldn't that be a problem?

Thanks for the input.
post #8 of 11
it all depends on how old the drives are, how many hours the drives have spun for. i dont think it should be a problem with drive orientation, the bearings in the drives will be designed to be robust enough to take years of drive spining. if not ,with the spare money you could always buy 1 new drive for the nas, that way when you set up the raid, if an older drive should fail the new drive plus the rest of the older drives will keep the data. (also make sure you have a backup of your data, as a nas and raid is not a backup!!)

it could be worth emailing the hard drive manufacturer and see what there take is on altering orientation on drives after so long in use.

hope this helps.
post #9 of 11
I use a E-350 atm as home server.
Its been running for years now non stop and all passively cooled smile.gif

It can stream to my TV in Full HD.
At the same time i can watch media files on 2 other TV's through media players.

Its also contains a back-up drive for 3 PC's in this home and we share 1 big network drive from this PC on the 3 other PC's

Its super cheap and does almost everything (you can game on it, not even with a discrete card)

The E-350 is old so i would go for a E-2200 now:
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/E2KM1IDELUXE/
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post #10 of 11
It doesn't take much CPU power for a NAS. You will max out the drives speed before anything else unless you are using some form of RAID.
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