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too many comments are LOL in this thread. wow. talk about not living in the real world.

too many to quote.
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too many comments are LOL in this thread. wow. talk about not living in the real world.

too many to quote.

go for it, quote them all.
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At some point people will realize that change happens regardless of us and that they can either Adapt or fall behind.

I was initially skeptical of 8, but Ive grown to really like it and even find myself looking for charms on Windows 7 machines from time to time.

Besides, 8 didnt get rid of the start menu, it just moved it to the charms and settings menu and changed how it looks
It should only take a few minutes to figure out 8 and 8.1 when coming from 7 because the changes made in a usability sense aren't very big.
Use the windows key, the charms menu is your start/settings menu with a different skin, beyond that pretty much everything else is the same.
Heck, Control Panel is virtually identical, it just takes different clicks to get to.

I think people are more likely to realize that if they switch to Linux and the desktop environment they're using does something they don't like, they can just switch and keep using the same OS, just with a different face.

I've been using Linux for almost ten years now, and through that time, I've gone between desktop environments several times because the one I was using made some big changes that I didn't like. And it's literally as easy as doing something like

"sudo apt-get install kde-plasma-desktop", log out, change a setting, log back in.

Watching people argue over Metro, the only desktop environment officially supported in Windows 8, and whether it's good or if people need to man up and adapt to change has been hilarious from the standpoint of someone who has always been able to change desktop environments on a whim.

When people talk about Linux and freedom, this is the kind of stuff they're talking about. Not being stuck with some corporate group's decisions based on maximizing profits.

However, your grandstanding about people who don't like Metro being afraid of change is somewhat interesting, because in a way, you're sticking with Metro and standing up for it because you're afraid to leave the Windows ecosystem and you're afraid of the massive amount of change that would bring.

On another note, Microsoft backtracking on Metro somewhat is good news. It means that all those OEMs going "we're not selling as many pre-built desktop PCs, the desktop PC is dead!" have been completely ignoring the DIY market. And the DIY market is strong enough to make Microsoft backtrack.

At least something good has come out of this, but the Windows ecosystem is still very far from ideal. At the very least, it's proven to the world that Microsoft doesn't really care about all of their customers and they'll more than throw existing consumers under the bus to chase better profits somewhere else.
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go for it, quote them all.

i don't have the time to argue with the youngsters. lol.
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I think people are more likely to realize that if they switch to Linux and the desktop environment they're using does something they don't like, they can just switch and keep using the same OS, just with a different face.

no way Linux ever catches on. IF it ever does it won't be in the near term. sure geeks and techies might use it. but the average user. not going to happen. they barely know how to use winxp let alone 8.
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go for it, quote them all.

i don't have the time to argue with the youngsters. lol.

Then don't. If I'm one of those LOL comments, let me get a couple points across.

I'm an adult first of all. second of all, how on earth am I out of touch with reality? because I don't accept windows 8? if so, well then, I guess I am.
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The reality is simple:

Almost everyone hates metro and almost everyone does not want a Tablet-like interface on their desktop or laptop. If MS keeps trying this non-sense and continuely trying to shove it down my throat, I can see myself using linux in the next 2 years or so.
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Then don't. If I'm one of those LOL comments, let me get a couple points across.

I'm an adult first of all. second of all, how on earth am I out of touch with reality? because I don't accept windows 8? if so, well then, I guess I am.

random rock thrown. hit dog hollered.

if you think that the masses of avg computer users let alone major industries like banking and manufacturing are going to switch to anything but windows in this current generation then i don't know what to say.

that little bit of cmd that u used above is way above most computers users heads. most American industries are entrenched in windows xp/ce and are are currently upgrading to the least path of resistance due to EOL on xp.

Linux has very loud support from a minority of users. but it is not going to be used widely within the next 20 years if ever.
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no way Linux ever catches on. IF it ever does it won't be in the near term. sure geeks and techies might use it. but the average user. not going to happen. they barely know how to use winxp let alone 8.

Have proof of this?
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but it is not going to be used widely within the next 20 years if ever.

I beg to differ... it's already widely adopted, most servers use them, and people use android (which is a fork of linux).
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Hopefully this won't be garbage under the hood like Windows 8 and especially 8.1. I loved the Metro start menu but man did Microsoft screw up under the hood.

In Windows 8 I couldn't run old apps like Deus Ex. In 8.1 Steam was so screwed up that it wouldn't run games like CSGO and Serious Sam 3. All of these things run perfectly in Windows 7. Same Steam/Game install and all.
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