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Here is my question:

Question : Dearest GigaByte Tech Supp. Staff,

Today I've bought two (2) brand new Kingston 1GB PC3200 CL3 184-Pin DIMM memory modules (1GBx2= 2GB). Exact Type/Model ID is KVR400X64C3A/1G. I've checked both Gigabyte's and Kingston's websites before buying these two memory modules, just to be sure about the compatibility with the maximum memory speed supported by the mainboard -which is 400 MHz-.

In order to operate/enable the Dual Channel Technology I've installed them in DDR1 and DDR3 slots of Channel A (same color slots). Well... Nothing is wrong with that. Things did go well about the Dual Channel Technology. It's already enabled. I can see it on boot/startup test screen. (By the way memory size is ok too. It's already 2 GB. I can see it both in boot screen and in XP)

My problem is with the ram speed. Module speed should be 400 MHz (PC3200) but BIOS results it as 333 MHz. I confirmed that information by SiSandra too. Indeed it is 333 MHz, not 400. Do I have to do anything? What's wrong with it? Do I have to update my BIOS, change CPU, or what?

Thank you very much for your elite support.

Best Regards...

Ozgur Sendir


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Model Name : GA 8IPE1000-G Rev 4.0
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M/B Rev : 4.0
BIOS Ver : .6.00PG
Serial No. :
Purchase Dealer :
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VGA Brand : ATi Model : Radeon 9700
CPU Brand : Intel Model : P4 Speed : 2.4 GHz (533MHz)
Operation System : Win XP SP : 2
Memory Brand : Kingston Type : DDR
Memory Size : 1GB x 2 Speed : PC3200 400 MHz


And here is their Answer !!!

Dear Sir,

Thank you for supporting GIGABYTE products and contacting GBT Tech Support. As to the problem you mentioned, because there are too many kinds of memory modules available in the retail market, it is very difficult to test all of the modules with our MB products especially the quality various. If possible, we also recommend you choosing the modules with famous brand and test the modules with your system before you buy them to avoid H/W compatibility issue.

By the way, we do not recommend using different brand/type/size of memory module on a MB. This is because it will cause system stability or unknown problem sometimes. Hence, if possible, we strongly suggest you install the same brand/type/size of memory modules.

If you still have any further question or suggestion about our products/service, please do not hesitate to contact with us directly. We will try our best to help you resolve the problem ASAP.

Best Regards,
GIGABYTE TECHNOLOGY



Am I speaking chinese ???

So I replied them:

As I told you before (and you did not read care fully):

1) My ram memory modules brand is a famous brand. It is Kingston !
2) Each of two memory modules are the same.
Both brand is Kingston !
Both size is 1 GB !
Both type is PC3200 !
and both model is KVR400X64C3A/1G !
....THEY ARE SAME !!
3) I don't have any problem with Dual Channel Technology. It is already enabled.
4) My problem is with module speed. A PC3200 memory module should work at 400Hz. But these modules are running at 333Hz. Why ?

Please read my message carefully.



Grrrrgghh !!!!
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post #22 of 34
I run into the same problem due to the 533mhz FSB of my 805. Luckily when I hit my max overclock it brings the memory up to 200.4mhz (x2).

It's been my experience that the difference in speed isn't something you're likely to notice...but it's the principal of it!
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http://www.arkdevices.com/product.ph...cat=155&page=7

There is a list of motherboards that will accept your RAM.

Your motherboard is listed.

So your best bet would be to just return the RAM and go with a different brand.

EDIT: Yeah, read the site wrong.
    
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If I'm reading it right, that is a list of motherboards that -do- accept this type of memory.
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post #25 of 34
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A little research would have saved you the hassle.

http://www.arkdevices.com/product.ph...cat=155&page=7

There is a list of motherboards that will not accept your RAM.

Your motherboard is listed.
No dude. My MB is not listed there. My MB is GA-8IPE1000-G (Rev 4.0).
Actually it is supported and listed here.
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Originally Posted by Perry View Post
If I'm reading it right, that is a list of motherboards that -do- accept this type of memory.
Good point, I guess being sick and half asleep while trying to help doesn't work.

Well, have you checked the RAM itself for serials?

Maybe it was a packaging error and you got the wrong type.

Have you tried the RAM in another PC to see if they'll boot at 400?
    
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Good point, I guess being sick and half asleep while trying to help doesn't work.
I mess up even when I'm at 100%. No worries.

And ozgursendir, your motherboard is listed there. Just take off the Rev. 4.0 part.

It has to do with the FSB of your processor. You'll need to overclock it in order to raise the memory frequency or get a processor with an 800FSB.
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Originally Posted by Peroxide View Post
Good point, I guess being sick and half asleep while trying to help doesn't work.

Well, have you checked the RAM itself for serials?

Maybe it was a packaging error and you got the wrong type.

Have you tried the RAM in another PC to see if they'll boot at 400?
Dude they're PC3200. Believe me...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Perry View Post
I mess up even when I'm at 100%. No worries.

And ozgursendir, your motherboard is listed there. Just take off the Rev. 4.0 part.

It has to do with the FSB of your processor. You'll need to overclock it in order to raise the memory frequency or get a processor with an 800FSB.
Well.. you're wrong/right. Overclocking does not help. I can't reach 400 Hz by o/c. I stuck @ 380 ... System does not boot with higher o/c settings.

I need to get a CPU with an 800 FSB. That's right.

But according to GB Staff my modules are infamous and have different type, model & size !! That's the fact !!!!
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maybe you need to set it at 1:1 divider?
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