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Ok here it is. I sold my main rig to put money aside for a possible upgrade at tax time but im not 100% sure yet. I was given a prebuilt asus desktop. (Asus Essentio) with the following specs. Yes it was given to me free from a friend who really hates pc gaming. I am wondering should I upgrade from the 3770 and build a whole new rig and spare parts where I can or keep what I got and upgrade some things like GPU & PSU

 

Specs

 

i7 3770 3.4 (Non K)

P8H61-m PRO

16gb adata ddr3 1600

Thermaletake TR2 600 (303666)

plextor m5p Pro 128gb ssd

1tb toshiba HDD

Asus DVD burner + bluray

GTX 660 ti superclocked

dedicated wireless card

 

The case is a crap ASUS essentio case that will have to be replaced as it came with no fans & is very small.

 

Now before you say anything about the PSU it is a 303666 model which was stated here on OCN by Phaedrus2129 that since its OEM its actually pretty good.


Edited by 4LC4PON3 - 1/11/14 at 8:12pm
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If that was a K chip, I'd say keep what you got. Thing is you can't overclock unless you replace both he cpu and the mobo.

What you have now is about on par with a fx8350 with a low/mid range overclock. You could make the thing go faster by going to an overclock, but to do it you have to ditch most of the system. It's also not that bad where it is.

One issue I am having in giving advice on this is there appear to be several versions of this machine. There is a case with rounded corners, a squard off one, and one with a slanted front. also the actual wattage of the PSU is unknown, so I don't know whether it can handle more GPU or not.
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If that was a K chip, I'd say keep what you got. Thing is you can't overclock unless you replace both he cpu and the mobo.

What you have now is about on par with a fx8350 with a low/mid range overclock. You could make the thing go faster by going to an overclock, but to do it you have to ditch most of the system. It's also not that bad where it is.

One issue I am having in giving advice on this is there appear to be several versions of this machine. There is a case with rounded corners, a squard off one, and one with a slanted front. also the actual wattage of the PSU is unknown, so I don't know whether it can handle more GPU or not.

 

sorry the wattage of the psu is a 600 watt. i was given this system free and ive obviously opened it to very all parts so I listed them. some things have been upgraded such as the PSU, GPU, SSD, bluray. + 100 free games on steam i cant complain. Im not 100% worried about overclocking. Im more worried about the longevity of this CPU for gaming. if it has a couple years left in it or is already lagging behind in gaming

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Personally, I'd keep it and wait for Broadwell Socket 1150 which should be coming out later this year. Even a Haswell 4770K doesn't have much to offer you in terms of net performance over that 3770 non-K without overclocking it substantially.

If there's any room for good improvement, it would be in replacing the GTX 660 Ti with something faster - a GTX 780/780 Ti or AMD R280 or R290 would provide a substantial boost in gaming performance. Not all games are CPU bound, for those he 3770 would be more than enough.

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no, the cpu has time. The GPU as well, if you stick to 1080p single monitor. it's not a super quick chip because of the lack of overclock, but it's not overly slow either, and it's got 8 threads which takes care of possible future issues with the new consoles moving games to 8 thread. The GPU is the weak link, but as long as you keep your monitor small it's not that weak either. unless you change the gpu there is no real reason to change the case, and if you do there are ways around it.

if you wanted to move to say a gtx780, which you have the power for, you could buy a cheap reference card, and replace the cooler with a nzxt g10 watercooling system. mount the radiator cooler on the back fan port and you should still be fine. the heat will go right out of the box before it can annoy anything. Doing that would be ~$500, minus what you get for the 660ti on ebay ($160-210) plus what it costs for the cooling rig. (~$30 for the g10, and ~$40-80 for the aio watercooler) A new case will probably wind up being around $60-80 at the bottom end. you can get a good case for $40, but you will need to add fans to it.

To keep the case, but bump the video buy the reference 780 first. it's got a blower cooler which will be loud but will eject most of it's own heat and see how bad it is. internal temps WILL go up. but if they're handleable, and the noisew isn't too bad,you're golden. Dump the 660ti on ebay or inthe OCN marketplace. If you7're running too hot, or the noise is annoying, get the g10 and a compatible120mm aio cooler (there is a list) and change the GPU cooler.

If you just loathe the case, buy what you want, get a NON reference GPU which is quiet and cools better, but dumps it's heat into the case, then use your improved airflow to get rid of the heat.
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1. Assuming you run a 24" 1080p TN monitor, you should be OK for the next year or two - well, without maxing out newer games.
2. that 1TB Toshiba HDD might be 2 years old already... plan at least a backup of whatever is important to you - even on a DVD or 2.
3. Don't put any more money into this system; save your tax return for your next machine - preferably your own built so you can transfer SSD, BRay Drive, maybe RAM (unless DDR4 will come out) and even the GPU and whatever else if you are short on money.

That's what I would do, at least.
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1. Assuming you run a 24" 1080p TN monitor, you should be OK for the next year or two - well, without maxing out newer games.
2. that 1TB Toshiba HDD might be 2 years old already... plan at least a backup of whatever is important to you - even on a DVD or 2.
3. Don't put any more money into this system; save your tax return for your next machine - preferably your own built so you can transfer SSD, BRay Drive, maybe RAM (unless DDR4 will come out) and even the GPU and whatever else if you are short on money.

That's what I would do, at least.

This has merit. The system still works reasonably well. DDR4 may (or may not) actually produce a performance boost worth having, but at least you get to find out. Also the upcomming nvidia GPUs are a major departure design wise They've got their own tiny CPU in them for one thing.
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1. Assuming you run a 24" 1080p TN monitor, you should be OK for the next year or two - well, without maxing out newer games.
2. that 1TB Toshiba HDD might be 2 years old already... plan at least a backup of whatever is important to you - even on a DVD or 2.
3. Don't put any more money into this system; save your tax return for your next machine - preferably your own built so you can transfer SSD, BRay Drive, maybe RAM (unless DDR4 will come out) and even the GPU and whatever else if you are short on money.

That's what I would do, at least.

 

well the toshiba has not seen 2 years of use tho. I have all receipts on this PC he gave me and it actually was purchased at bestbuy septermber 2013 so the PC in general is far from old. were talking 5 months and boy did he over spend on this. I have already checked the HDD no bad sectors.

 

I do not plan on stepping away from my dell s2340m IPS panel which is 1920x1080. I do love this panel tho its only 10920x1080.

 

Im far from broke so even now money is no object. I feel as is this thing is a pretty nice beast. Its not struggling to run any games at the moment. unless your talking about maxed out crysis 3 or metro last light which I dont care about either of these games & games like BF4 I know maxing that is a different beast all together.

 

I had a very nice setup before I sold it because I build a new rig every year. The rig I was running was a 4670k, 16gb ddr3 1600, crossfire 7950s, x2 plextor M5P PRO ssds 128gb, rosewill capstone 750.

 

What ever I do its purely for gaming. I game prolly 95% of the time with the exception of coming to OCN. as for over clocking. I dont overclock (Yes I know) thats not why im on OCN. The problem is you cant find a better community then OCN. So while people say *** are oyu doing here if you dont OC. Its the community (Most forums communities are jerks or know it alls)


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It`s better to change that psu a rosewill hive 650w will do the trick And pribably in the las quater of 2015 a better gpu
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It`s better to change that psu a rosewill hive 650w will do the trick And pribably in the las quater of 2015 a better gpu

 

the PSU is brand new has only been used for 2 days. I do know the thermaltakes tr2's are not high end but according to Phaedrus since its model 303666 OEM he actually said in his thread that its actually pretty good. 

 

I decided that im going to keep running the i7 3770 with the same board and all internals thats in it BUT I am going to replace the case, PSU & buy a GPU in about a month so the PC will be

 

i7 3770

P8H61-M PRO

16GB of ddr3 1600

1TB toshiba

Plextor M5P PRO 128gb

bluray + dvd burner

 

 

Below is what Im going to change in about a month or so. 

 

 

NZXT 410 (or what ever catches my eye)

 

GPU (Unsure of what I want)

 

Power supply (more then likely a rosewill capstone since I only run single GPUs)

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