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Seems like you can increase gpu clock a lot by downclocking on the cpu side which makes me wonder could you clock down the gpu a lot and then gain extra perf on the cpu side? thumb.gif
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Dont forget these chips lacks l3. They should be perfectly fine for gaming and hsa stuff but the cpu is just for the basics.
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4.26 in Cinebench R11.5 at 4560MHz.

My PhII X4 955 got almost exactly one point higher than that at less than 4500. Can't remember the specifics but that's approximate.

This is definitely much more like it, compared to the earlier benchmarks, but still not very appealing.

For the people like us with the 4-module CPUs, definitely not, but it does look like a pretty substantial improvement on a core-for-core basis.

Phenom II X2 555 @ 3.9 apparently gets a 2.24 in CB11.5, so theoretically, if clocks scaled linearly in Cinebench and we had a golden-plated Callisto Phenom II that could reach 4.5, it would get a score of about 2.6.

Comparing processors with the same number of floating point units would be fair in Cinebench, wouldn't it? This is a serious, non-rhetorical question. If something's wrong with my reasoning, please let me know, seriously. biggrin.gif
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I couldn't care less for CB scores, personally. For a little chip (half of the die is igpu), this is shaping up to be a decent basic gaming unit.
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Is the NDA just the 14-01 or a certain time of day as well?

I believe it's 8am EST so roughly... 15 hours? Though this is just what it says on the presentation slides.
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4.26 in Cinebench R11.5 at 4560MHz.

My PhII X4 955 got almost exactly one point higher than that at less than 4500. Can't remember the specifics but that's approximate.

This is definitely much more like it, compared to the earlier benchmarks, but still not very appealing.

Kaveri has less FPU's, anyway you should think about this.... You need sacrifice little to get more if possible and that is AMD doing.

Performance that AMD offers is acceptable and regular consumer that is interested in the PC's and it is not like they would saturate the chip well, at least with AMD you can saturate all of its potential while with Intel not so much thus it is waste of resources since a regular consumer will 90% won't use 90-100% of CPU resources for some application.

That is only one benchmark, don't be surprised if Kaveri chip spanks your X4 955 in every way possible as long application is not depending on things that Kaveri is flawed of.
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Seems like you can increase gpu clock a lot by downclocking on the cpu side which makes me wonder could you clock down the gpu a lot and then gain extra perf on the cpu side? thumb.gif

Probably... Its surely a vice versa situation...

Kaveri has same design as Jaguar when comes to TDP and heat management with design allows heat transfer between CPU and GPU thus if one or another is hotter then heat will transfer to one that has cooler/colder thus in end temperature is going to be equal between both components thus if some game is dependent on CPU primarily then I assume that AMD could make a tool for Kaveri that would set clocks of CPU and GPU.

AMD needs to make a tool that will control clocks and that will be variable according to condition/scenario/usage/application.

Good idea, right?
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Kaveri has less FPU's, anyway you should think about this....

"Bulldozer is the first major redesign of AMD’s processor architecture since 2003, when the firm launched its K8 processors, and also features two 128-bit FMA-capable FPUs which can be combined into one 256-bit FPU."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulldozer_%28microarchitecture%29

Kaveri has 4 FPU just like Phenom II X4, these units merge into 2 256bit units for AVX workloads only afaik (Phenom II doesn't have that anyway).
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Cinebench doesnt use SSE2?
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Cinebench 11.5 is SSE2 and 15 is SSE3 I think

Each phenom core has 2 128bit FPU's for 8 total in a quad core. Bulldozer et al have only 2 128bit fpu's per module for 4 total.
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