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I am currently trying to build a kinda-gaming cheap pc for my little niece that loves playing minecraft since her older pc is no more. I thought i should go for an AMD APU which combines the GPU unit in the CPU and therefore reducing the total cost. The problem is that i have knowledge only on Intel boards and CPUs so i have no idea which APU i should buy and which board for that money that are gonna be fine for her in gaming. When i say "Gaming" dont imagine games like Battlefield, Call of Duty, Crysis and stuff like that. She likes old, simple games. Her favourite is minecraft and other similar games. Therefore i would like her to be able to play them on a normal and smooth fps ammount with decent quality and also a pc that can perform well for its money. I need help only about the APU and motherboard. About the ram, psu,HDD i will buy the cheapest thing i can find of any brand.

Maximum budget for the whole pc without the monitor = 200€ = 275$
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I suspect someone will come in and tell you to go intel as MC apparently does better on that platform than AMD, but since you're in the AMD boards asking for advice, here is an AMD build that I came up with. It's not the cheapest crap out there but still well within the budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A6-5400K 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.92 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 80GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($26.36 @ Amazon)
Case: Zalman ZM-T1 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($27.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq 350W ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $233.23
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Originally Posted by wizardonthejob View Post

I suspect someone will come in and tell you to go intel as MC apparently does better on that platform than AMD, but since you're in the AMD boards asking for advice, here is an AMD build that I came up with. It's not the cheapest crap out there but still well within the budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A6-5400K 3.6GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.92 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 80GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($26.36 @ Amazon)
Case: Zalman ZM-T1 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($27.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq 350W ATX Power Supply ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $233.23
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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MC? What is that? blinksmiley.gif


Btw thanks for taking your time to reply and help me...rep+
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MineCraft (= MC tongue.gif) is playable on a toaster if you reduce graphics and view range (which is not a big deal since MC looks terrible anyway). Wizard's suggestion seems fine. I would only take a larger hard drive, 80 is so small.
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Originally Posted by Sisaroth View Post

MineCraft (= MC tongue.gif) is playable on a toaster if you reduce graphics and view range (which is not a big deal since MC looks terrible anyway). Wizard's suggestion seems fine. I would only take a larger hard drive, 80 is so small.

lol dunno how i missed that tongue.gif My biggest question is why Intel would be better for this game? It has some built in features in the processor that allows minecraft to run smoother? Since i know that AMD's APU Graphics power is a lot more powerfull than Intel's HD graphics chip...
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lol dunno how i missed that tongue.gif My biggest question is why Intel would be better for this game? It has some built in features in the processor that allows minecraft to run smoother? Since i know that AMD's APU Graphics power is a lot more powerfull than Intel's HD graphics chip...

It's not the graphics part of the Intel processors that trump AMD in this area, but the Hyperthreading IIRC. And as far as I know, it's only relevant when you download the high res texture pack and try to max out the settings at high resolutions.
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Heartl3ss - you will stretch yourself with this build, but they're always fun so good luck and enjoy.

I've slightly modified Wizard's build above for about 10% more cost I think is worthwhile - check it out here:

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CPU: AMD A6-6400K 3.9GHz Dual-Core Processor ($66.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A75MA-E35 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.92 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($39.06 @ Amazon)
Case: Zalman ZM-T1 MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($27.99 @ Mwave)
Case Fan: Kingwin CF-012LB 40.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($3.68 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 430W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($19.99 @ Microcenter)
Total: $261.62
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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Mostly, I would suggest that you try and save another $40-$50 or so, which would mean that you could get a quad-core A8-6600k APU which has a better GPU as well. They'll handle everything much better. It could also be an upgrade route, but it's better to just invest now if possible.
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I noted that you first mentioned your budget limitation in Euro's, so I came up with this build using the German site (as a baseline) for only €60 more than your initial budget but without cutting any corners. A 500gb HDD, a quad-core APU that can overclock well, higher speed 1866mha RAM (for the APU's GPU memory bandwidth) and enough PSU for overclocking. This will handle much more game-wise, for much longer. It's worth the extra investment if you can (and only €24 more for 8gb of even faster 2133mhz RAM: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f317000cl11d8gbxl) and is pretty balanced IMO.

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CPU: AMD A8-5600K 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor (€76.99 @ Pixmania DE)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard (€44.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (€53.92 @ Hardwareversand)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€43.00 @ Pixmania DE)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case (€11.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: Cooler Master Elite Power 400W ATX Power Supply (€31.45 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €262.15
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Here's a review of this same basic setup: lightly overclocked A8-5600k (sans the extra memory speed shown in the next link)
http://techonbudget.com/desktops/pc-gaming-on-budget-amd-a8-5600k-radeon-hd-7560d-review-with-benchmarks
Quote:
"DDR3-2400 only yields 2% more performance than DDR3-2133, while DDR3-2133 generates a huge 20% gain over mainstream DDR3-1600."
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/memory-bandwidth-scaling-trinity,3419-7.html
Quote:
"Pay the £10-15 premium for an 8GB DDR3-2,133 dual-channel set and there are substantial performance improvements to be had over DDR3-1,600 memory"
http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/46073-amd-a10-5800k-trinity-needs-faster-ram/?page=3
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Legit Bottom Line: The AMD A10-5800K APU loves when you increase the memory clock frequency and thanked us with 33% performance gains in gaming benchmarks!
http://www.legitreviews.com/testing-memory-speeds-on-amds-a10-5800k-trinity-apu_2106/7
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"In our testing, we found that the largest impact on gaming performance with AMD's Trinity APU is the speed of the system RAM. As you would imagine, the faster the RAM, the better the performance."
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Optimizing-AMD-Trinity-for-Budget-Gaming-173/

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/4372/mini-review-the-effect-of-memory-speed-on-amd-trinity-apus

(different hardware, but still relevant - resulting % gains would be near identical for the situations shown
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2013/08/21/the-verdict-on-amds-a8-6600k-and-surprising-revelations-testing-an-a10-6800k-with-dual-graphics/
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2011/07/06/the-best-memory-for-llano/1
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I noted that you first mentioned your budget limitation in Euro's, so I came up with this build using the German site (as a baseline) for only €60 more than your initial budget but without cutting any corners. A 500gb HDD, a quad-core APU that can overclock well, higher speed 1866mha RAM (for the APU's GPU memory bandwidth) and enough PSU for overclocking. This will handle much more game-wise, for much longer. It's worth the extra investment if you can (and only €24 more for 8gb of even faster 2133mhz RAM: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/gskill-memory-f317000cl11d8gbxl) and is pretty balanced IMO.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A8-5600K 3.6GHz Quad-Core Processor (€76.99 @ Pixmania DE)
Motherboard: MSI FM2-A55M-E33 Micro ATX FM2 Motherboard (€44.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1866 Memory (€53.92 @ Hardwareversand)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€43.00 @ Pixmania DE)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case (€11.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: Cooler Master Elite Power 400W ATX Power Supply (€31.45 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €262.15
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-13 18:07 CET+0100)

Here's a review of this same basic setup: lightly overclocked A8-5600k (sans the extra memory speed shown in the next link)
http://techonbudget.com/desktops/pc-gaming-on-budget-amd-a8-5600k-radeon-hd-7560d-review-with-benchmarks
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/memory-bandwidth-scaling-trinity,3419-7.html

Dunno if it's me but seem's there is something wrong with that Case and it's price. I know the shinobi can go for like 70 € and the link doesn't work for me. Don't think its possible to be sold so cheap by any chance...
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I had my suspicians, but just went on the site's suggestion. I guess you'd have to either find another cheap option like that locally (perhaps 2nd hand), or chuck in 25 more euro for something like this:
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/part/fractal-design-case-fdcacore1000bl

Check my edit of the above post too
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