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]This thread has turned into a masive circle jerk about how much better the UHD aspect ratio is. Just listen to wedge he knows exactly what he's talking about.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but when the 4K standard was defined, they defined those two different sizes at the same time:

3840 x 2160 was intended for consumer devices (tv's, monitors, etc). Because this is 16:9 and it will properly scale all non-4K resolutions.
4096 x 2160 was intended for studio level recording equipment. So this will be the native resolution of true 4K source material.

But as part of the 4K standard, they defined that pixel's will be cropped as needed to fit on the television in use, as opposed to adding black bars. So there's nothing to worry about whichever resolution you buy. You won't have to see any of the dreaded black bars. If you were to buy a "True 4K" screen, you would see black bars when viewing any other resolution, including 1080p and everything else.[/quote
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why would HDMI 2.9 matter? why not just use good old DVI? HDMI is a form of DVI any ways.

HDMI has the convenience of providing sound as well.
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why would HDMI 2.9 matter? why not just use good old DVI? HDMI is a form of DVI any ways.

Ask companies that hold technology back.
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HDMI has the convenience of providing sound as well.

trust me it's gonna be crap sound, since monitors have tiny speakers.
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Ask companies that hold technology back.

well i mean why even bother with HDMI 1.4? just use DVI to start with.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but when the 4K standard was defined, they defined those two different sizes at the same time:

3840 x 2160 was intended for consumer devices (tv's, monitors, etc). Because this is 16:9 and it will properly scale all non-4K resolutions.
4096 x 2160 was intended for studio level recording equipment. So this will be the native resolution of true 4K source material.

But as part of the 4K standard, they defined that pixel's will be cropped as needed to fit on the television in use, as opposed to adding black bars. So there's nothing to worry about whichever resolution you buy. You won't have to see any of the dreaded black bars. If you were to buy a "True 4K" screen, you would see black bars when viewing any other resolution, including 1080p and everything else.

Does that mean that all future 4K/UHD, or future Blu Ray content will be 4096 x 2160 and not 3840 x 2160?
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Originally Posted by cdoublejj View Post

trust me it's gonna be crap sound, since monitors have tiny speakers.

Unless you're like me and many other people who route both video and audio through a stereo receiver for easy switching and proper listening.
Edited by Nickum32 - 1/13/14 at 2:07pm
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Might be the girl that I want more....tongue.gif

maybe they're a package deal biggrin.gif
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Or this

Oh geez, how friggin wide is that?

If only I had the money...
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Originally Posted by MiKE_nz View Post

HDMI has the convenience of providing sound as well.

trust me it's gonna be crap sound, since monitors have tiny speakers.
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Originally Posted by ZealotKi11er View Post

Ask companies that hold technology back.

well i mean why even bother with HDMI 1.4? just use DVI to start with.

Some of us have home theater systems and using HDMI passthrough with ARC means that we can get that sound and get perfect digital audio out into the A/V receiver. That's the way I've had it set up and it works perfectly.
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Originally Posted by Jawswing View Post

Does that mean that all future 4K/UHD, or future Blu Ray content will be 4096 x 2160 and not ?

How the hell should I know? Lol. If I had to guess, it would be that most broadcast material will be 3840x2160. Disc content could probably go either way.

off topic FYI: the future of BluRay is grim. All media is in progress of going digital. The days of physical media are coming to an end.
Edited by wedge - 1/13/14 at 2:30pm
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