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In theory the Vita should have the same sales as the 3DS. Both can be picked up and suspended at will. I think more a lack of good Vita games is the problem. I carry one or the other depending on what I am playing at the time and like them both. Dragons Crown is amazing on the vita.

 

One thing the Vita has going for it is that for whatever reason the Vitas battery seems to last longer than my 3DS when suspended and even arguably during gameplay (in reality I am seeing even numbers in both). On suspend I can leave my Vita for about 2 weeks before it dies whereas the 3DS is dead within 3-4 days. For traveling, the Vita is definitely a must have but the 3DS far superior games library keeps bringing me back.

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AFAIK, Sony has very little to do with making the game. $$$ makes games tongue.gif

Didn't GTA3 just come out recently on the iTunes/Google App stores? I'd bet that it'll see much better sales from those so called casual gamers than it would on Vita.

All 3 PS2-era main GTAs are on Android and iOS now, that is 3, Vice City and San Andreas. San Andreas came out last month and I'm actually considering repairing my HTC One and buying a Moga Pro to make a custom portable gaming console because while my 3DS is good, but it isn't doing it for me. (Having the ability to emulate a bunch of games along with the few decent phone games would be enough for me)
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I've been working on an indie game for some time now. I have gone over platforms that I wish to target. Not once did I consider a mobile platform aside from iOS, Android, and Windows Phone. It's not a surprise to me that the PS Vita is a flop. The second they announced it at E3 I laughed. I'm a little surprised that the DS is still going. Those Nintendo and Pokemon exclusives are the only things keeping that platform alive. Without those the DS would be almost as dead as the Vita.

I wonder how much longer the DS can go based off of its exclusives. Smart devices are becoming more and more popular. Almost everyone I know has a smartphone. Everyone I know at least has a smart device like an iPod Touch. The days of dedicated mobile gaming platforms is coming to an end.
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Smartphones are the worst thing to happen to gaming in the entire history of videogames.
You might be confused. Tablets/Smartphones have done more for gaming than anything else in history.

If you don't like the games for those platforms you can always just not play them. tongue.gif
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You might be confused. Tablets/Smartphones have done more for gaming than anything else in history.
If you don't like the games for those platforms you can always just not play them. tongue.gif

If you class casualizing and pumping 'games' that were previously relegated to online minigames that you'd play when you didn't have anything better to do with your time... Fine, I agree.

The current generation of 'gamers' is a crew addicted to trash minigames.
   
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I have a 3DS, I've not had the interest in Tablets or Phones. Hell I don't even have a cellphone.

I'm...not even sure how that's possible in 2014. I don't think I know a single person who doesn't have at least a crap flip phone.
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Smartphones are the worst thing to happen to gaming in the entire history of videogames.

Oh no, you're taking a very narrow view. Smartphones have gotten people who would never, ever have gamed before to start gaming. They may be casual games...Angry Birds, Plants vs. Zombies, Candy Crush, whatever...but former non-gamers are still gaming. And they are doing it in legion.

Only people that worship "hardcore" games and nothing else (rolleyes.gif), I can see how their narrow worldview is disrupted. Developers who they think should be making Call of Duty 178 are instead busy getting rich making Candy Crush. Oh well, these "hardcore" games (snicker) need to unbunch their panties and learn how to play and appreciate a broader swath of games. That's what real gamers do.
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Didn't GTA3 just come out recently on the iTunes/Google App stores? I'd bet that it'll see much better sales from those so called casual gamers than it would on Vita.

GTA3 and Chinatown Wars have both been out on iOS for a long time, they were one of the first games I got on my iPad almost two years ago. Not sure when Vice City came out, but it's old new too. What was just released was San Andreas.
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I wonder how much longer the DS can go based off of its exclusives. Smart devices are becoming more and more popular. Almost everyone I know has a smartphone. Everyone I know at least has a smart device like an iPod Touch. The days of dedicated mobile gaming platforms is coming to an end.

Agree, but the DS will have the longest tail of the bunch I think. Because of its broader audience, low price point, and durability, people do buy it for their kids. But ultimately, I look forward to the day when Nintendo takes a hard look in the mirror, realizes it's okay to go the Sega route, and just focuses on games for other hardware instead of trying to make hardware. Mario and Pokémon on an iPhone is just a cash cow waiting to happen. (Can you imagine the microtransactions of an iOS Pokémon? Can't find all the Pokémon? Get a booster pack for $0.99! Nintendo would be makin' in rain.)
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If you class casualizing and pumping 'games' that were previously relegated to online minigames that you'd play when you didn't have anything better to do with your time... Fine, I agree.

The current generation of 'gamers' is a crew addicted to trash minigames.

Oh my. rolleyes.gif

I appreciate these "casual minigames" as anyone. And I've been gaming longer than most of the people reading this have probably been alive.

But since you want to view this as generational, your complaint sounds like an old guy waving his fist and yelling "Get off my lawn!" tongue.gif
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Oh no, you're taking a very narrow view. Smartphones have gotten people who would never, ever have gamed before to start gaming. They may be casual games...Angry Birds, Plants vs. Zombies, Candy Crush, whatever...but former non-gamers are still gaming. And they are doing it in legion.

They pollute the Holy Videogaming Hobby!! mad.gif
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But since you want to view this as generational, your complaint sounds like an old guy waving his fist and yelling "Get off my lawn!" tongue.gif

Of course I will!! Get off my couch you filthy newcoming peasants!! mad.gif


...to everyone else, I do hope you note the sarcasm in my posts tongue.gif

While I do hate phone games, I'm by no means as radical as it might appear XD
   
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But since you want to view this as generational, your complaint sounds like an old guy waving his fist and yelling "Get off my lawn!" tongue.gif
We could rename "Hardcore gamers" to Hipster gamers. biggrin.gif

I played video games back when you had to go to the store! And buy a physical copy! And it was a cartidge! With no save files!
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In theory the Vita should have the same sales as the 3DS. Both can be picked up and suspended at will. I think more a lack of good Vita games is the problem. I carry one or the other depending on what I am playing at the time and like them both. Dragons Crown is amazing on the vita.

I agree with this, I bought my Vita about a year ago and nearly every game I've played I haven't enjoyed at all.

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