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Home Review - AMD FX 8320 4.5 vs Intel 3570k 4.5

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#1 ·
Warning - This is merely a homely analysis, only expressing some benchmarks. Do not be offended or offend.

Intro

This review follows on from numerous discussions about what is the best option, FX 8320/50 or 3570K (4670k), seeking to offer a reliable and homely analysis, far from any economic pressure, which as we know, often is exerted on the best known "reviewrs".

It´s important to understand the characteristics of the companies when we analyze both material´s, AMD is tiny compared with Intel, the Intel budget just for ID, is probably three times the total annual budget of AMD, AMD is slightly larger than the Nvidia .

Therefore, we have to take into account this aspect to moderate the demands / expectations.

The tradition has almost always been, Intel with top machines and top price matching and AMD looking to be strong on price / performance market.

With the arrival of 1150, very little has changed in terms of performance, so, this analysis remains valid to compare the replacement of 3570K, 4670k, since the differences between them aren't many.

The systems under consideration are composed:

Intel:

I5 3570k;
MSI Z77 GD65;
8GB 1866mhz;
7950/6970;
SSD OCZ Vertex 2 RAID0;
Bequiet DRP2.

AMD:

FX8320;
GA 970A-UD3;
8GB 1866mhz;
7950/6970;
SSD OCZ Vertex 2 RAID0;
Bequiet DRP2.

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Price VS

Both systems well composed and ready for OC:

1155

I5 4670k + MSI Z87 G43

360 USD

AMD3+:

FX 8320 + GA 970a UD3/Asus M5A97 R2.0

250 USD

(newegg prices)

So we are talking about a difference of 100 USD.

It is enough for a greater graphic´s card / SSD and so on.

Overclock

Intel:

Configure the Intel platform is very simple , everything follows the " Plug and Play "logic.

Essentially, the symbol K , identifies the processor with unlocked multiplier , so simply and roughly:
  • switch multi to the desired speed;
  • Disable Turbo and energy saving options;
  • Increase Cpu Core Voltage; System Agent Voltage e Cpu PLL;
  • Memory, plug and play logic again if they have XMP.
No tricks , simple and effective , the settings used in OC 4500mhz :

Cpu Ratio - x45;
Cpu Core Voltage - 1.19:
Cpu Pll - 1.6
Cpu I/o - 0.95;
System Agent Voltage - 0.925

An Overclock of this kind requires proper cooling , tapping the need for an investment of around 35-40usd.

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AMD:

After a few minutes of analysis, it comes to mind that we are in the presence of a more hardcore platform, the settings are not as easy neither the results, although everything works quite well.

The FX are all unlocked, however, for OC, it's not just change the multi, "et voila".

You need to find the balance between CPU multi and Bus Frequency, by just changing the multi, it may be required higher voltage for the desired speed than combining multi + Bus, reminds me of the 1366 platform.

Therefore, it is necessary to change:
  • Cpu Multi;
  • Cpu Bus Speed (200-230);
  • Cpu Vid (atĂ© 1.55);
  • Cpu NB Vid (atĂ© 1.35);
  • Cpu Pll + ;
  • DDR Vtt + ;
  • Amd cool and quiet; Amd APM; AMD C6/C1E - disable .
Settings used OC 4500mhz:

Cpu Multi 21x
Cpu Bus Speed 215
Cpu Vid 1.5
Cpu NB Vid 1.3
Cpu Pll + 0.10
DDR Vtt + 0.05

4500mhz seems to me the best compromise and what can be expected with a medium range cooler.

Summarizing the steps to OC:

1) increase the multi to realize the maximum stable mhz with stock voltage;
2) finding the maximum point, increasing the bus speed to understand the effect beyond MHZ achieved only by growing multi;
3) Balance found , increase various voltages and repeat the process (multi + + Bus)

Take into account that, from a certain point, it will be beneficial to maintain the lowest multi, increasing only the CPU Bus

The temperatures should not pass the 72 at core.

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4500mhz OC temps


Prime95:

Intel 1.211 vcore - 58Âş

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AMD 1.512 vcore - 49Âş

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Vo data RAID0

One of the most criticized aspects on AMD platform is the RAID 0 performance.

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Intel

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AMD

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Synthetic Benchmarks VS

4500mhz vs 4500mhz


Wprime
(lower is better)
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PassMark Performance Test 8.0
(higher is better)
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Cinebench
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Black Hole Bench
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Luxmark
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x264 FHD
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MaxxPI2
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NovaBench
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SisoftSandra
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PCmark07
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Gugila GroundWiz
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PLAGame Benchmark
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Catzilla Bench
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Heaven Benchmark 4.0
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3Dmark Vantage
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3Dmark11
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3Dmark (13)
AMD
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Intel
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Part 1 regarding general information and synthetic tests completed.

The objective of this analysis is not to influence someone, so every party should analyze the data provided and realize for yourself the differences between the two platforms and especially if the differences outweigh the investment.

In analyzing more attention was given to comparing 4.5 vs 4.5 in order to avoid biased accusations, however, there is a need to warn that especially in the new Haswell Cpus Overlock the 4500mhz one is tougher to achieve than on the platform 1155.
 
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Part 2

Gaming VS

4500mhz vs 4500mhz

All bench´s at 1080p.

With integrated benchmark:

Arma 3
Ultra
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Crysis I
Maxed out
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Crysis 2

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Grid 2
Maxed out

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Hitman Absolution
High

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Just Cause 2

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Mafia 2
Bench stock

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Metro Last Light

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Resident Evil 6
Maxed out

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Rome2
High
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Sleeping Dogs

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Sniper Elive V2

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Stalker: Call of Pripyat
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Without benchmark Integrated:

Assetto Corsa
Maxed out

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Battlefield 4

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Crysis 3

Medium
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FarCry 3(incoming)
Lost Planet 3

Maxed out

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Red Orchestra 2 / Rising Storm

Maxed out

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Sniper Ghost Warrior 2

High

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War of the Roses
High

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Finished.
 
#4 ·
only bad part about the 8320 is the power consumption otherwise it's a very good chip especially for the price
 
#5 ·
The only thing I noticed, and excuse my ignorance if it isn't always the case, is that the Graphics scores using 3DMark should be the same right, thru all the tests. The CPU scores should be different, usually in favor of Intel. But seems if the GPUs are equally clocked the scores should be the same or relatively close. I just noticed on a random part here and there they differ and in 3DMark13 Firestrike, the first test has a huge difference in scores for the GPU.
 
#6 ·
I found that to be strange as well.

But even if i run again with a diferent graphics card, despite i get the same Firestrike score, it will show much lower Icestorm with AMD platform.
 
#12 ·
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Originally Posted by Germanian View Post

only bad part about the 8320 is the power consumption otherwise it's a very good chip especially for the price
I have an 8230 and an i7, when sitting idle(which is what they do mostly) they both system use around 100 watt says the UPS which are both the same brand/model. When the CPU is maxed out running prime95 the AMD obviously uses more, but its not like the thing runs full tilt 24/7. I guess if my intention was to build a system that ran full load 24/7(like for the latest cuckoo-coin trend), I'd definitely pick Intel.
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Originally Posted by Sins View Post

Great work, helped me decide my next build!
+rep to you.
I agree!

to the +rep I mean. Don't need a new build ATM
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#14 ·
That's some epic badass review dude good job ! and you put alot of work into it obviously.

I gonna post the link of your thread in a thread I just started in general section where I regroup alot of benchmarks over the web to help people make a decision on their next upgrade.

Here is the link in case anyone wanna check it : http://www.overclock.net/t/1458883/amd-vs-intel-comparison-inside-stricly-gaming

Oh and do you know if any of those benchmarks uses only single thread ? and or if you know any software where I could compare single threaded performance, I'd be curious to run a test with my current c2d e8500 @ 4.3 then on my FX-8320 when I get it just to compare.

I think I read SuperPI is single threaded however how sure if it's good enough to compare (like in seconds..)
 
#16 ·
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Originally Posted by StrongForce View Post

That's some epic badass review dude good job ! and you put alot of work into it obviously.

I gonna post the link of your thread in a thread I just started in general section where I regroup alot of benchmarks over the web to help people make a decision on their next upgrade.

Here is the link in case anyone wanna check it : http://www.overclock.net/t/1458883/amd-vs-intel-comparison-inside-stricly-gaming

Oh and do you know if any of those benchmarks uses only single thread ? and or if you know any software where I could compare single threaded performance, I'd be curious to run a test with my current c2d e8500 @ 4.3 then on my FX-8320 when I get it just to compare.

I think I read SuperPI is single threaded however how sure if it's good enough to compare (like in seconds..)
Superpi is old X87 code. Cinebench has single thread although comparison fairness is debatable. And like the above poster, blackhole and Passmark.
 
#20 ·
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Originally Posted by jason387 View Post

I would love to post my results here if the OP would allow me
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Sure, i would like to see the comparison 6300 4.8 vs 8320 4500mhz
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Try to do a Luxmark test, for some reason, it wont work as well with Intel plataform.
 
#22 ·
OP +rep for putting this out there
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, now I have a question, which intel cpu are you using the 4670 or 3570?
Cos you listed the price for the 4670 and mobo plus you have it in brackets up top, could you clarify, thx
 
#23 ·
I had the 3570k + MSI Z77 GD65.

Since both products are out of the market, we should compare the Z87 + 4670k price´s
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Thanks for the rep.
 
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