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one word "bloomfield"
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Wow. Read my posts people. Heres just to clarify.

Mid 2007, K8L and AMD's NATIVE Quad core processors come out.

They want to by 2008, phase out all 1000, 2000, and 8000 dual core Opterons in favor of QUAD Core, meaning then that they will need to price the Quad-Core's at the same price as the dual cores.

And FP performance, btw is a huge selling point in servers, and AMD has better performance in that.
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ok man settle down a little bit all i said was that you said the it would
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puts AMD back in the lead with octal-core
which says that among others, they are ahead of intel and i wanted to point out that intel already has something to compete. i am in no way an intel fanboy. ik ik my name says otherwise but i truely regret making my name that anyways... i mean what happens two years down the road when were laughing at core 2 duos performance??? but i just got excited when i got my new laptop and it was the first time in my life when i had anything that close to top of the line in computers. before the core 2 duo i was a true AMD fanboy and wouldn't even think about buying any netburst chips but i will buy any processor, AMD or Intel whichever one has the better performance at the time, it just happens to be intel at the moment. no problem i really hope that AMD comes back and shows us all that we were wrong, i really do. I just wanted to clear it up that intel already had an octo core server and you were saying
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which puts AMD back in the lead with octal-core
i just wanted to clear it up that intel already has an octo core system and i thought you were saying that AMD would have the first octo core system when infact that would not be true. no offense inteded man and i'm sorry if you were.
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Of course there are much server motherboards that support octal-core, but this technology expands the 4x4 desktop system. With AMD replacing 1000-series, 2000-series, and 8000-series with these chips, we're soon to see them in AM2/AM3, Socket F, and whatever the 8000-series run on (probably the new server socket). It's nice of them making cheaper quad-core solutions while potentially they can have octal-core in their 4x4 desktop platforms. Also these chips will be based on 65nm K8L architecture.
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Too bad none of us use them.
None of us use them? I'd say quite a few members here use Opterons instead of X2s or A64s. I'm fairly sure that no one uses a 1000, 2000 or 8000 series, but the Opteron line is huge and many overclockers use the 1xx line.
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does anyone know if they will require ECC ram? and if they do then will 4x4 support ECC ram?
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Originally Posted by Jori View Post
No, the opteron is actually quite fast in FP performance, which is a pretty big selling point.

http://www.spec.org/cpu2000/results/...030-07835.html
2 Clovertowns score 104


http://www.spec.org/cpu2000/results/...016-07636.html
2 Dual core opterons score 119.

Thats 8 cores vs 4, and the Opteron still wins. It has its advantages, and thats why AMD continues to do so well and sell so many Opterons. IBM is making a super computer, what will it contain? 16000 Opterons, and 16000 Cells linked together with Torrenza.
Are you just completely biased or gullible? Im hoping just the latter. That review obviously doesnt even show a fraction of the whole picture. Clearly there is some major scaling issue with the software, as 8 faster cores should outperform 4 slower cores in any case. But it looks like what we have here is some poorly coded software that simply chokes when it tries to run more than 4 threads. Open your eyes and take a look at the big picture, instead of just one flawed benchmark. That is why professional review sites use a whole series of benchmarks, to help eliminate anomalies.

K8 does does better running simple FP instructions, like the Tinker and Amber cores in FAH. But more complex FP instructions, like the Gromacs core, run better on Core 2 architecture.
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and the worst thing is that we all know as soon as Intel has a native quad core processor they are going to go "hey look what i can do! (slaps two quad core dies onto one chip) OCTO CORE on one chip!!!" then they will have octo core Xeons with two sockets and go WOW 16 Cores on ONE computer!!! if AMD would put more than one die on a processor then i think they would have an easier time competing with Intel.
That's the thing I don't understand. AMD should leverage Hypertransport and toss in multiplie dies onto one chip. The approach would be similiar to Kentsfield/Presler, execpt that the two dies would be connected with Hypertransport instead of the FSB and we all know how much superior Hypertransport is to the FSB. Communications between the cores would be at the speed of the core and it would scale way better.
    
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That's the thing I don't understand. AMD should leverage Hypertransport and toss in multiplie dies onto one chip. The approach would be similiar to Kentsfield/Presler, execpt that the two dies would be connected with Hypertransport instead of the FSB and we all know how much superior Hypertransport is to the FSB. Communications between the cores would be at the speed of the core and it would scale way better.
Thats what Im thinking. They have 65nm tech, it would only take them a couple months to design a dual-die quad core. Even if it isnt native, at least it would actually compete against Kentsfield.
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i wonder if there is any way to tell the people at AMD that we want them to do that lol
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