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post #1 of 47
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I've been thinking about building a mini-ITX gaming PC in a small ITX gaming case. I want a quite, small gaming PC. Would anyone like to input on this? Maybe some build/case/cooling suggestions?
post #2 of 47
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I want to use intel obviously
post #3 of 47
Then you want a video card. The really really small stuff uses the igpu and amd has that more or less locked up.

With small cases it comes down to how little do you want in your case and what directions do you want to be small in.

Could do a 1u case that's super thin, but it's about the form factor of a pizza box. There's a bunch of shoebox sized stuff, but a lot of those will only take short cards so your only video option is a gtx760 or 270x. long shoeboxes will take big video cards, but they look a lot like a full atx case sliced in thirds.

if you go ecs power supply you can get a smaller box but the psu itself can be problematic.
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post #4 of 47
The main thing to consider, at least to start with here, is airflow. There are lots of Mini ITX cases with terrible airflow issues when used for gaming.

I would recommend pick out a case you like first. SInce you want an intel chip, and a dGPU you just want to be mindful of the maximum sized GPU you can fit in whatever cases you look at.

Pick a couple out and share them with us. If I was going to do an ultimate ITX gaming build, and put it underwater, then I would probably go with a case labs case at this point.
post #5 of 47
first thing you need to do is define small and define performance expectation / requirements and desired form factor

you could build something really smaller with just kaveri onboard or go prodigy in size and still be "considered" small.

both considered gaming but performance would vary greatly
post #6 of 47
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I was actually thinking something like the bitfenix prodigy.
post #7 of 47
That thing is actually pretty large for an itx box. It's kind o a darling around here because it's got a lot of radiator space for watercooling. Did you want to do a custom loop, AIO, or air cool?

A lot of the really small cases have to be on water in some way, be it loop or AIO. You can actually aircool the prodigy though. There are tons of prodigy build logs around here. Lots of options you can look at.

Unless you want to do a quiet 290x, there's no real functional reason to do custom loop, or really even then.

Just for grins lets play it that way

This would be a more or less top line build. The motherboard is there because it has wifi, but the highe end asus boards do too so if you want to spend more you can.

The h110 goes up top and fits on the GPU with the bracket. Not 100% sure there is space tor the GPU cooler and the CPU cooler. Stll looking at that one.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($73.75 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($126.92 @ NCIX US)
Storage: A-Data XPG SX900 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290X 4GB Video Card ($579.99 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (White) Mini ITX Tower Case ($74.98 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: OCZ Fatal1ty 550W 80+ Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Other: corsair h110 (for gpu) ($124.99)
Other: NZXT Kraken G10 gpu bracket ($29.99)
Total: $1813.55
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-14 01:03 EST-0500)
Edited by bombastinator - 1/13/14 at 10:06pm
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crucial ct960 LG blu-ray used venamous x win 8.1 pro 
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Crossover 30Q5 PRO 30" 2560X1600  cheapest piece of crud I could find antec HCG 750 some thermaltake microcenter blue-light-special... 
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post #8 of 47
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That is a really nice build you set up right there and I do like it, however that's a little bit above the price range i was thinking. I may take your advice and look up some prodigy build logs on here.
post #9 of 47
Ugh, if (or when) I see another prodigy build I think I just might puke. I'm pretty sure everyone and their dog built a SFF PC last year using it.

There are ALOT of different options now. A few years ago there weren't so many. And several of them are designed with the enthusiast in mind.

Budget dictates everything so figure out a budget and we can help from there. Basically you'll be wanting something with an I5 and a GPU from the $200 and up price range, as well as an SSD of at least 120GB.
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($73.75 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87N-WIFI Mini ITX LGA1150 Motherboard ($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($126.92 @ NCIX US)
Storage: A-Data XPG SX900 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290X 4GB Video Card ($579.99 @ Amazon)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (White) Mini ITX Tower Case ($74.98 @ OutletPC)
Power Supply: OCZ Fatal1ty 550W 80+ Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($82.99 @ NCIX US)
Other: corsair h110 (for gpu) ($124.99)
Other: NZXT Kraken G10 gpu bracket ($29.99)
Total: $1813.55
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-01-14 01:03 EST-0500)

Sory to say but that PSU is not very good

Would say it pretty much sucks
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