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post #41 of 83
But hang on I'm your casual gamer when i do get a decent card again - not into water cooling and never will and that probably covers most of us ? redface.gif

So it is important the majority to get a card that's right in the first place - sorry amd failed here , hence for better coolers to come out redface.gif
post #42 of 83
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i'm beginning to think that it doesn't matter how you dress the 290x up - its not clever card heat wise - period

when a card runs hot from day one that tells me that it is up to its near limit in the first place - and even adding extreme cooling to keep it cool and for them extra fps by OC doesnt seem worth it after reading the reviews on 290x.

At first when it came out I was memorized but now I would buy a 780 or 780ti purely for a card that naturally runs cooler.

And damn! I didn't want to say that - i love Amd for being there , helps to keep prices in check thumb.gif

The problem is that the 780 costs as much as a 290x and performs worse than a 290. I think the results in the 290/290X thread are actually good, considering the price thumb.gif Heat wise they are bad, but the Tri-X, which I keep on glorifying, is a decently good clocker from what I've heard, but maybe I am wrong.
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post #43 of 83
I'm no GPU expert, but isn't the 280-290 series a fail then? Being trottled because of high temps, extra hot VRM and Core and a cooler that doesn't help. Can someone more knowledgeable tell me if anything will be solved by using aftermarket parts and coolers. Sure the temps will lower, but is it possible that idk, AMD used crappy parts or something and that made the card so hot? Or is the Core itself naturally plagued by heat issues. Also, wouldn't die size affect heat output, and if so, doesn't that mean that the Titan/Ti should be outputting more heat?
post #44 of 83
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The problem is that the 780 costs as much as a 290x and performs worse than a 290. I think the results in the 290/290X thread are actually good, considering the price thumb.gif Heat wise they are bad, but the Tri-X, which I keep on glorifying, is a decently good clocker from what I've heard, but maybe I am wrong.

780 = $499

290x = $630+

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But hang on I'm your casual gamer when i do get a decent card again - not into water cooling and never will and that probably covers most of us ? redface.gif

So it is important the majority to get a card that's right in the first place - sorry amd failed here , hence for better coolers to come out redface.gif

I can tell you haven't owned one.

I had mine sitting at 70c playing BF4, yes the fan is loud and noisy but its more than capable of keeping the cards cool.
As for overclocking, here you go, I had my reference Gigabyte running at 1160 on the core without touching voltage and it was perfectly stable.
That's a 160Mhz core clock increase and the cooler handled it perfectly.

Absolutely nothing wrong with the 290/x range of cards.
    
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post #46 of 83
yes your right about not owning one thumb.gif

and a gig windforce 7970 was my last top card - couldn't be happier at the time thumb.gif

but even on the 1st day of release those that brought without the knowledge, have they had a raw deal? i think so redface.gif

forget all the fancy cooling that came after - they are more for your enthusiast (or was needed )

i see yours is a - I had my reference Gigabyte running at 1160

seems to be some discrepancy here

so my thoughts would be if you buy the card as it is and forget about OC it, which a lot of folks wouldn't do then its a fair card thumb.gif
Edited by ladcrooks - 1/14/14 at 5:03am
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Man, that card is sucking more power than my entire computer XD
   
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post #48 of 83
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780 = $499

290x = $630+

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Here in Finland, the cheapest R9 290X (Reference) + BF4 goes for 479€. The cheapest GTX780 (PNY Tri-fan + no games included) goes for 459€. So yeah, nearly the same price here. In the US it's a different story.
Links:
http://www.pixmania.fi/naytonohjain/pny-geforce-gtx-780-oc-enthusiast-edition-3-gt-ddr5-pci-express-3-0-naytonohjain-kf780gtx3gepb/21646539-a.html
http://www.pixmania.fi/naytonohjain/sapphire-technology-r9-290x-4-gt-gddr5-pci-express-naytonohjain-battlefield-4-peli-kaupan-paalle/21852837-a.html
post #49 of 83
fair play when it comes to price - mining has undermined that! biggrin.gif
post #50 of 83
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I'm no GPU expert, but isn't the 280-290 series a fail then? Being trottled because of high temps, extra hot VRM and Core and a cooler that doesn't help. Can someone more knowledgeable tell me if anything will be solved by using aftermarket parts and coolers. Sure the temps will lower, but is it possible that idk, AMD used crappy parts or something and that made the card so hot? Or is the Core itself naturally plagued by heat issues. Also, wouldn't die size affect heat output, and if so, doesn't that mean that the Titan/Ti should be outputting more heat?

Only the 290 and 290X have Hawaii GPUs, the 280X is still based on Tahiti. The problem seems to be that AMD went for a smaller die size with a higher transistor density. A reference card can't handle the heat and therefore throttles, so the stock cooler was a failure indeed. The only non-ref card that seems to handle the heat output well is Sapphire's Tri-X card. Obviously people shouldn't be surprised about high core/VRM temps when they run 1.3-1.4 V through their air-cooled card.
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