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Unless he upgrades the graphics card in which case the i5 760 might fall short.
Some rumours claim that Intel will launch a $400 hexa core Haswell-E CPU as the cheapest X99 model. Assuming that is correct, there'd be no point in a similarly priced quad core Broadwell part. All speculation though.

Personally, I think 6- or 8-core CPU's will be the optimal purchase in the near future even for gaming. Quad cores are great, but it's an issue that some games still don't work well with HT. Since HT often has no impact, or even a negative impact, on performance even in games that support 4+ cores (e.g. Battlefield 3), I think an extra pair of physical cores would be a great help in enthusiast systems with CFX/SLI. i5's certainly aren't enough for a multi-GPU system anymore. Even my CPU has issues in certain games and I have last-gen graphics cards.

A quad core i7 is currently more than good enough for the average Joe of course.

My intention actually wasn't with X99 at all. I have no information on it no knowledge and my source isnt valid for it. My source is valid for LGA1151 however.

Though, from what I've seen, Intel's quad cores still perform equal or better (usually the latter, and sometimes significantly so) to something like and FX-83x0. Even in games like BF4. I think quad core is fine for gaming actually; especially with Mantle.
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I personally can't wait for Intel's Skyfall architecture biggrin.gif

I'm still waiting for Skynet! thumb.gif
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My intention actually wasn't with X99 at all. I have no information on it no knowledge and my source isnt valid for it. My source is valid for LGA1151 however.

Though, from what I've seen, Intel's quad cores still perform equal or better (usually the latter, and sometimes significantly so) to something like and FX-83x0. Even in games like BF4. I think quad core is fine for gaming actually; especially with Mantle.

I wasn't talking about your source. I'm saying that if X99 has a $400 hexa core, a $400 Broadwell/Skylake quad core will be very hard to sell. It doesn't matter which socket it's on, a quad core will be a hard sell at the same price as a hexa core. Assuming that is true, it would make the most sense if the mainstream CPU's top out at 6 cores as well around the same price. Then you'd still save money on the motherboard and RAM compared to a Haswell-E system (especially since X99 is quad channel AFAIU).


I don't believe in a sub-$400 X99 hexa core though. Intel is too strong currently to lower prices significantly. I could easily believe in a $500 hexa core Broadwell-E with a $300 quad core Skylake though.
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I wasn't talking about your source. I'm saying that if X99 has a $400 hexa core, a $400 Broadwell/Skylake quad core will be very hard to sell. It doesn't matter which socket it's on, a quad core will be a hard sell at the same price as a hexa core. Assuming that is true, it would make the most sense if the mainstream CPU's top out at 6 cores as well around the same price. Then you'd still save money on the motherboard and RAM compared to a Haswell-E system (especially since X99 is quad channel AFAIU).


I don't believe in a sub-$400 X99 hexa core though. Intel is too strong currently to lower prices significantly. I could easily believe in a $500 hexa core Broadwell-E with a $300 quad core Skylake though.

Why would mainstream quad cores be 400$? Where'd that number come from? The i7-4770K isnt even that much.

Something else to keep in mind is that 2011 is an architecture behind, LGA2011 boards are very expensive and they don't come with a cooler. The price is quite a bit higher.
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Why would mainstream quad cores be 400$? Where'd that number come from? The i7-4770K isnt even that much.

Something else to keep in mind is that 2011 is an architecture behind, LGA2011 boards are very expensive and they don't come with a cooler. The price is quite a bit higher.


lolol

wait youre serious?

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lolol

wait youre serious?

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I thought most LGA2011 CPUs didnt come with a cooler. Have I been misinformed?
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I thought most LGA2011 CPUs didnt come with a cooler. Have I been misinformed?

no youre correct

but why the hell would you want to run a 2011 chip with the stock cooler.
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no youre correct

but why the hell would you want to run a 2011 chip with the stock cooler.

You're misinterpreting my point. My point is that it's an added cost to the package, making the 2011 CPU option even more expensive over the LGA1151 option.
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wait so you think socket 2011 chips are more expensive than 1150 because they dont come with stock coolers?

if youre using the intel stock cooler on 1150 youre also doing it very...very wrong.
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wait so you think socket 2011 chips are more expensive than 1150 because they dont come with stock coolers?

if youre using the intel stock cooler on 1150 youre also doing it very...very wrong.

No offense, but please read my entire post.

The cooler is simply an added cost to the already expensive package.

2011 CPUs are more expensive. Period.
2011 boards are usually more expensive. Period.
The necessity of a cooler is more expensive. Period.

Also, I'm probably in the wrong forum to be saying this, but: Not everyone needs to overclock. Someone isn't "using their computer wrong" just because they have a stock cooler. No need to be an elitist.

For example:
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CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($358.32 @ TigerDirect Canada)
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Even the cheapest recent LGA2011 CPU with the cheapest compatible motherboard with a cheap cooler is still significantly more expensive than the most expensive LGA1150 CPU with a decent board (add a cooler for 30-80 if it really bothers you. It'll still be cheaper.)

THAT is my point.
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