Originally Posted by Mopar63
I understand that this is OCN and there are a lot of hardcore enthusiasts here and I understand some disappointment that this chip is not targeted at hardcore enthusiasts but to say this chip is bad just shows a level of stupid.
When you take this chip and look at it's intended target and use this is a solid chip and a decent bump up from previous generations.
Instead of outright insulting people on the thread, why don't you indulge in something far more constructive... like trying to understand why people might be disappointed ? Have you thought if whether for the price these are selling for you can get a better deal ?
Originally Posted by Slomo4shO
Originally Posted by opty165
This entire thread has become ridiculous.... How is this chip a disappointment within it's first 12hrs??
The A10-6800K is currently $130
, the cheapest available A10-7850K is $180. AMD is basically asking a 38% peremium for a chip that has equal CPU performance (thanks to lower stock clock speeds), marginally better power consumption, and ~15-30% better iGPU performance (which is still inferior to a $60 dGPU you can pickup with a 6800k). In fact, a 760K
paired with a HD 7770
will far exceed the performance of this chip at the same price point... Do the math...
You get an unlocked quad core CPU, where the stock performance isn't actually much below the A10-7850K, and much better gaming performance, with upcoming Mantle support covered. For the same price. Now why would you drop the money on an A10-7850K which even implies getting a new FM2+ motherboard, whereas you can drop a 760K on an FM2 motherboard (but also on an FM2+ motherboard if you like) ?
This release isn't really revolutionary at all. CPU IPC performance is up, but stock clockspeed is down, the end result is that it trades blows with the A10-6800K, and even in the GPU department it ends up competing with the A10-6800K in many situations. Is this worth a $50 premium ? I don't think so. Some people might think that the promise of hardware and software features is good, but the truth is that AMD has been having a habit of over promising and under delivering.
The frame pacing driver is still not finished, it was supposed to have been released last year, now it's January, Mantle in BF4 is delayed, the Dual Graphics support for Kaveri will only arrive in February, the A8-7600 which AMD insisted on giving to reviewers, in many cases in detriment of the A10-7850K and A10-7700K, will only be released somewhere in Q1 (some say within a month or so). By the time HSA becomes relevant, Intel will probably already have mainstream 14nm Broadwell with Iris Pro graphics making a dent in AMDs strategy. Did you see the benchmarks ? At lower resolutions Iris Pro outperforms the A10-7850K's GPU. Intel already has the GPU tech that can compete with Kaveri, reportedly the Broadwell GPU will include additional performance improvements.Edited by tpi2007 - 1/14/14 at 3:49pm