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post #271 of 1004
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It will max it out with ease


I'll be impressed if it can run a WOW at Ultra settings running on a 1080p screen IMO
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You think the A10-7850k will run WOW fine?
Certainly and if you want higher settings you could always drop in a R7 240 wink.gif
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4670K pulls around 8.1 in 11.5 overclocked. That's about a 62% difference then a 5ghz Kaveri
FPU based benchmark that doesn't use AVX why do you even bother.
Steamroller is as crippled as Bulldozer was running floating points due to the sheer lack of FPU's on a side note AVX instructions make it so that Steamroller can use 2 FPU's in a module instead of one at a time. (256 bit instructions rather than 2 128 bit ones)
Edited by maarten12100 - 1/14/14 at 3:35pm
post #273 of 1004
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You think the A10-7850k will run WOW fine?

If you give it a good o/c to ~4.5Ghz it will be sufficient but frame drops on raids are unavoidable even for intel extremes. You will not see max eye candy on the iGPU even if you pair it with 2400Mhz but overall it will run it fine.
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You think the A10-7850k will run WOW fine?
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_7750_IceQ_X/23.html
That is about what you can expect with a slight core clock OC and some fast memory those becnhes are at Ultra with 4xAA so you can easily do Ultra with 2xAA (or add in a R7 240 and max the "oops shouldn't swear" out of that game biggrin.gif )
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post #275 of 1004
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If you give it a good o/c to ~4.5Ghz it will be sufficient but frame drops on raids are unavoidable even for intel extremes. You will not see max eye candy on the iGPU even if you pair it with 2400Mhz but overall it will run it fine.

Ya trying to decide between a Kaveri system vs an i5 system for WOW. Going Kaveri safes a good $300 bucks BUT if I'm gonna have to get a Video Card anyways with the lackluster numbers from Kaveri going Intel might make more sense now errrr
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http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_7750_IceQ_X/23.html
That is about what you can expect with a slight core clock OC and some fast memory those becnhes are at Ultra with 4xAA so you can easily do Ultra with 2xAA (or add in a R7 240 and max the **** out of that game biggrin.gif )

You the man! Thanks for the link. Might just stick with Kaveri + water cooling and OC da Biotch
post #277 of 1004
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I understand that this is OCN and there are a lot of hardcore enthusiasts here and I understand some disappointment that this chip is not targeted at hardcore enthusiasts but to say this chip is bad just shows a level of stupid.

When you take this chip and look at it's intended target and use this is a solid chip and a decent bump up from previous generations.


Instead of outright insulting people on the thread, why don't you indulge in something far more constructive... like trying to understand why people might be disappointed ? Have you thought if whether for the price these are selling for you can get a better deal ?

Slomo4shO did:

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This entire thread has become ridiculous.... How is this chip a disappointment within it's first 12hrs??


The A10-6800K is currently $130, the cheapest available A10-7850K is $180. AMD is basically asking a 38% peremium for a chip that has equal CPU performance (thanks to lower stock clock speeds), marginally better power consumption, and ~15-30% better iGPU performance (which is still inferior to a $60 dGPU you can pickup with a 6800k). In fact, a 760K paired with a HD 7770 will far exceed the performance of this chip at the same price point... Do the math...


You get an unlocked quad core CPU, where the stock performance isn't actually much below the A10-7850K, and much better gaming performance, with upcoming Mantle support covered. For the same price. Now why would you drop the money on an A10-7850K which even implies getting a new FM2+ motherboard, whereas you can drop a 760K on an FM2 motherboard (but also on an FM2+ motherboard if you like) ?

This release isn't really revolutionary at all. CPU IPC performance is up, but stock clockspeed is down, the end result is that it trades blows with the A10-6800K, and even in the GPU department it ends up competing with the A10-6800K in many situations. Is this worth a $50 premium ? I don't think so. Some people might think that the promise of hardware and software features is good, but the truth is that AMD has been having a habit of over promising and under delivering.

The frame pacing driver is still not finished, it was supposed to have been released last year, now it's January, Mantle in BF4 is delayed, the Dual Graphics support for Kaveri will only arrive in February, the A8-7600 which AMD insisted on giving to reviewers, in many cases in detriment of the A10-7850K and A10-7700K, will only be released somewhere in Q1 (some say within a month or so). By the time HSA becomes relevant, Intel will probably already have mainstream 14nm Broadwell with Iris Pro graphics making a dent in AMDs strategy. Did you see the benchmarks ? At lower resolutions Iris Pro outperforms the A10-7850K's GPU. Intel already has the GPU tech that can compete with Kaveri, reportedly the Broadwell GPU will include additional performance improvements.
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How many more disappointing processor based releases can AMD survive at this point?

IMO..not many,if any.

They've been going down the wrong road for a long time now.

Total loss of server production;No interest in even.

Making CPUs is what made AMD great,I like their GPUs;Not sure where the magic went on the CPU side.
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I honestly don't see the point of the 7850. The 7600 might be okay for HTPC, but the 7850? Are they pulling a fast one here? The CPU isn't a progression from their last APU and it costs too much. I can't see how this would even be remotely desirable over a Haswell i3 + a low end dGPU. The cost isn't that different and the Haswell i3 will have far superior CPU performance.

It really is too bad that AMD sold their mobile graphics IP to qualcomm so many years ago. They should have entered the ARM SOC race when it was in its infancy, it's probably too late to bother at this point.
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It still blows my mind that you can only x-fire with a r7 240 or r7 250. Richland (6800k) X-fired with a 7750 and that was more powerful then a r7 250 w/ more SP's. headscratch.gif
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