Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [Various] AMD Kaveri A10-7850K (7700K, 7600) reviews
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

[Various] AMD Kaveri A10-7850K (7700K, 7600) reviews - Page 32

post #311 of 1004
Quote:
Originally Posted by Particle View Post

As a customer, I don't care if they want $10 more for the CPU if the motherboard is $10 cheaper in a case where I want both. It's effectively the same price. If I were buying -just- a CPU today, I'd have gone elsewhere.

The cost of an equivalent AMD board is much lower, but so is the quality. UP4 is not the same as UP4 on Z87. A88X Sniper is not equal to Z87 Sniper. A88X Extreme4 is half that of Z87 Extreme4 in terms of power delivery yet the APUs are more power hungry. No ROG ASUS boards either.

Half the A88X boards don't even have heatsinked VRM. doh.gif

The Gigabyte A88X UP4 (GA-F2A88X-UP4 to be exact) seems like a steal at ~$100 though , it's on par with Z77X-UP4 TH

EDIT: More on topic, to eliminate "Microsoft" biases
Linux review http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_a10kaveri_linwin&num=2

ediT2: GPGPU at Computerbase
http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/prozessoren/2014/amds-apu-kaveri-im-test/5/

edit3:http://www.tweakpc.de/hardware/tests/cpu/amd_a10-7850k_a10-7700k/s09.php?benchmark=gluxmark&lang=eng

edit4: http://www.hardware.fr/articles/913-7/cpu-performances-applicatives.html
Edited by AlphaC - 1/14/14 at 8:04pm
Workstation stuff
(407 photos)
SpecViewperf 12.0.1
(152 photos)
 
Reply
Workstation stuff
(407 photos)
SpecViewperf 12.0.1
(152 photos)
 
Reply
post #312 of 1004
Quote:
Originally Posted by iRUSH View Post

How on earth does your Kaveri build save you $300 over an intel solution?
Quote:
Originally Posted by iRUSH View Post

How on earth does your Kaveri build save you $300 over an intel solution?


Your probably right but I was thinking about the $220-$240 i5 and then a middle of the road MB seems to go for about $50 bucks more than top of the line Kaveri MB. Then you gotta spend at least a extra $100 to get compable video card.


I guess I should really say about $200
post #313 of 1004
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baghi View Post

If you take a Haswell-based Pentium G3220 ($69) and R7 240 ($59) this might be true, but if you look at the cheapest Haswell-based quad-core CPU (i5-4440 priced @ $194) and then add the cost of a R7 240, this might not look as good and you'll realize, you're getting a package that performs about same but at double the cost. Not to forget, with the APU, you've the ability to add a R7 series discrete GPU in Crossfire as well. thumb.gif
Why does it have to be quad core? For all I can see an i3 stomps this CPU wise. So really, a i3 ($129) + R7 240 still gives you better performance for the same money.
post #314 of 1004
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boxol View Post


Your probably right but I was thinking about the $220-$240 i5 and then a middle of the road MB seems to go for about $50 bucks more than top of the line Kaveri MB. Then you gotta spend at least a extra $100 to get compable video card.


I guess I should really say about $200

Heck, you could do a i5 3470 for $190 and a board for $50. You won't need to invest in an in an aftermarket CPU cooler. You won't have to invest in an aftermarket cooler for Kaveri either....but if you overclock, you have to. $240 out the door...or less.

Kaveri + FM2+ board clearly will cost more than that. Plus, the APU benefits heavily with 2133+ mhz RAM....not as chap as 1600. Worse case scenario, after a dedicated GPU such as a 7750/GTX650 you're not spending much more that Kaveri alone. In fact, less if you went i3 (well under $175 i3+board). An i3 and a 7750/gtx 650 is probably the same price as Kaveri all said and done. Which I hate to say it, is stronger that Kaveri...sadly.

I'm not slamming Kaveri. For an APU, it's the best! But, not a good value at $190.
post #315 of 1004
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zero_ View Post

Why does it have to be quad core? For all I can see an i3 stomps this CPU wise. So really, a i3 ($129) + R7 240 still gives you better performance for the same money.

Thank you! This is why Kaveri fails. It's a great APU, but at its current asking price of $190.....NO. $150 tops, and we have something to brag about.
post #316 of 1004
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zero_ View Post

Why does it have to be quad core? For all I can see an i3 stomps this CPU wise. So really, a i3 ($129) + R7 240 still gives you better performance for the same money.

however it does mean you would need case that can fit the graphics card, you cant get away with cases with no expansion
post #317 of 1004
Quote:
Originally Posted by akromatic View Post

however it does mean you would need case that can fit the graphics card, you cant get away with cases with no expansion

That's a pretty specific scenario. But if that's an issue, assuming the enclosure is obviously small, Kaveri high end will likely cook itself lol. Kidding aside, if HTPC style build is the only option, the lower end Kaveri models are the ones to get.

But if HTPC is the only goal, an i3 would do better, cheaper and use less power.
post #318 of 1004
Quote:
Originally Posted by akromatic View Post


however it does mean you would need case that can fit the graphics card, you cant get away with cases with no expansion

 

 

Nearly every case on the market (a good 99.99% of them), in all form factors, has at least one to two PCIe expansion slots. And the R7-240 is a single slot GPU that is only as long as the PCIe slot's length, and has a low profile width. Fitting a GPU like that into a case would be incredibly easy.

post #319 of 1004
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kinaesthetic View Post


Nearly every case on the market (a good 99.99% of them), in all form factors, has at least one to two PCIe expansion slots. And the R7-240 is a single slot GPU that is only as long as the PCIe slot's length, and has a low profile width. Fitting a GPU like that into a case would be incredibly easy.

that is only true for all larger then ITX cases

there are quite alot of ITX cases where expansion is not possible
post #320 of 1004
Quote:
Originally Posted by maarten12100 View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slomo4shO View Post

Q4 earning won't be public until the 21st. However, looking at the Q3 earnings, it is clear that $79 million in operating income from their graphics division is the only reason why AMD was able to enter the Black after being in the red for over a year...
Yeah I'm sure early batch consoles had nothing to do with it. Making profits and moving into profability is good AMD is on the good way. Actually the way they would've gone if Intel didn't play dirty back in the days but on the other hand AMD first licensed Intel then copied Intel in the earliest days both have done some shady things.

i'll leave this here for both of you:
Thanks to consoles, AMD posts first profit in over a year
loon 3.2
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-3770K Asus P8Z77-V Pro EVGA 980TI SC+ 16Gb PNY ddr3 1866 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
PNY 1311 240Gb 1 TB Seagate 3 TB WD Blue DVD DVDRW+/- 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
EKWB P280 kit EK-VGA supremacy Win X LG 24MC57HQ-P 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky Zero [blues] EVGA SuperNova 750 G2 Stryker M [hammered and drilled] corsair M65 
AudioAudio
SB Recon3D Klipsch ProMedia 2.1  
  hide details  
Reply
loon 3.2
(18 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-3770K Asus P8Z77-V Pro EVGA 980TI SC+ 16Gb PNY ddr3 1866 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
PNY 1311 240Gb 1 TB Seagate 3 TB WD Blue DVD DVDRW+/- 
CoolingCoolingOSMonitor
EKWB P280 kit EK-VGA supremacy Win X LG 24MC57HQ-P 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Ducky Zero [blues] EVGA SuperNova 750 G2 Stryker M [hammered and drilled] corsair M65 
AudioAudio
SB Recon3D Klipsch ProMedia 2.1  
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Hardware News
Overclock.net › Forums › Industry News › Hardware News › [Various] AMD Kaveri A10-7850K (7700K, 7600) reviews