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post #31 of 65
It seems like AMD's halo CPU product is marketed towards the i5's. Im all for competition, but until they can provide a product that can run with a couple graphics cards and not bottleneck, I'm gonna have to shop elsewhere redface.gif
post #32 of 65
Give me a FX 12 core and I will be happy.
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post #33 of 65
*Brings up some obscure benchmark that has absolutely no bearing on real life software or performance*

Kinda like this one...

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post #34 of 65
That's just AMD marketing, I mean yes it trumps intel in the integrated video and also with certain instructions...it's nothing new except that now it support HSA which is great but it's developer dependent like mantle so...we will see....again. Also the Game Performance graphic shown by AMD is nothing special when CPUs don't differ much in highly GPU dependent games.
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post #35 of 65
I'll believe it when I see the benchmarks. Till then, I'm not gonna believe in the AMD marketing hype.

That said, we all know it'll just push intel to finally put a couple more cores in it's CPUs for the first time in almost a decade to retake the crown. Oh wait, does that make me a intel fanboy or is that just being realistic? rolleyes.gif
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post #36 of 65
Quote:
Originally Posted by Obakemono View Post

ON TOPIC:
So AMD is calling the gpu cores shared eh? This is what they have been working on for years now, and if some cannot realize that the PS4 and XBOX1 APUs are most likely already doing this exact thing. thumb.gif

Well of course they are calling them shared. In a way, every system with a GPU + CPU has some form of "shared" resources, be it a bus, system memory, CPU cycles, etc. In this case, it's called marketing.

I'm not sure how custom designed APUs with custom APIs with custom OSes have any bearing on this discussion....
post #37 of 65
ADD

MORE

CORES



inc bulldozer 2.0

not even going to bother listening to any marketing crap from amd for these chips because i dont want to be set up for another massive dissapointment from the amd cpu division.
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a) CPU cores:
Even Intel is being limited by current architecture. x64 was not big boom as anybody ever expected (well lets say that we can handle much more memory natively).

What intel is doing last few years is adding more memory channels to its CPUs. its a nice way how to improve CPU performance... and sell much more memory chips biggrin.gif AMD did not followed this step.

b) Compute cores
They are here for years now, but the apps able to utilize their potential are mostly in gaming business. Both Intel and AMD have processors with ondie integrated graphics. But clearly, in rough performance AMD graphic cores/compute cores are far better as anybody can expect.

Example:
program desiged to bruteforce passwords able to run via CPU and GPU. CPU can generate up to 500 passwords per second. GPU can generate up to 10500 passwords. (These are numbers I measured on my own PC, sorry for no screenshot).

Using HW potential which is now being used only for entertainment would improve most of currently used software.

So yes I agree that computing/graphic cores can be used as a measurement for theoretical performance of APUs.

c) Reality
Basically no current software (except games) is able to utilize such HW potential. Most software even dont bother to support other than x86/x64 architectures. I believe its a matter of fact that AMD has processors (with computing cores) with higher computing power than Intel, but this potential is not used due different architecture.

edit:
Is it possible to write OS which would use GPU core instead of CPU? How complicated it would be?
post #39 of 65
Interesting chart, even if it is from AMD. It shows then straight up losing some benchmarks that they easily could have omitted which makes it a bit more viable. Most pre-release reviews are all cherry picked huge percentage wins only.

I'm sure the i5 will most likely still benchmark higher in a lot of tests, but as a whole they seem to match real world performance with a $70+ more expensive Intel processor. Most of us will still go with the higher benchmarking Intel CPU, but for those who make rigs for friends and family and casual gamers it could be the basis for a killer bang-for-buck rig that you wouldn't even be able to notice a difference with in real world situations. Heck, the integrated GPU will be plenty for most users, who games may be limited to Sims and Facebook games lol.

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Originally Posted by Abs.exe View Post

LAst time they said it would kick Titan in the nuts, and it was true. When can we expect this to come out ?


True! Hope so! thumb.gif
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