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post #1 of 16
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Hey all,

So I have a Deathadder that I bought a couple years ago and it is getting to the point where it is turning off and back on causing the mouse to stick or jump, and it is driving me insane. So I am needing a replacement on that, and was looking for any suggestions you all might have? I do some gaming, lots of web design/graphic design work, and may be sitting there for hours so comfort is important to me.

I have a Logitech MX Revolution at work and absolutely love it, but I have always been under the understanding that a wireless mouse will cause noticeable lag when gaming, is this correct?

Oh and I don't know if this matters much, but I currently have a Logitech G510 keyboard.

Any tips or suggestions would be great!

Thanks,

Matt
post #2 of 16
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I figured I would post up what I've been looking at-


Mionix NAOS 8200
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826580004

And the SteelSeries Rival
http://www.amazon.com/SteelSeries-Rival-Optimized-Optical-Gaming/dp/B00G6IJ5QK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1389714726&sr=8-1&keywords=steelseries+rival

Both seem to be on sale and I have heard good things about the Rival, has anyone used the Mionix NAOS at all?
post #3 of 16
Do you play first person shooters? If so, you'll want the Rival. Laser mice have some positive accel depending on movement speed. I have a Sensei right now and although ultimately comfortable, the acceleration is really annoying me and thus I actually have a Rival on the way to me. If you can wait a few days I should be able to comment more on it by the end of the week, or some other members will chime in before me.

The NAOS is very comfortable, but I would reach for the NAOS 7000. Very comfortable but a better sensor (same as the Rival's optical, the 3310).

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I've heard good things about the Mionix, though I really haven't heard a lot about it. I've heard much more about the Rival, and from what I've personally gathered from the [Official] Rival thread was it's a good mouse, but a bit costly for what it is. Maybe if the price drops a little further it'll be a great buy. The SteelSeries Sensei RAW on the other hand, I personally used for a few months and really loved it (as long as you get the RAW matte version IMO).

I'm currently using a Roccat Kone XTD, but I've been having issues where the mouse won't turn on when my computer does. I contacted support and got a response telling me I should remove the SteelSeries drivers from my Sensei, so I'll see how that works. If that fixes my mouse problems, I would 1000% recommend the Kone XTD due to its perfect shape, weight, texture, and customizable buttons/LEDs.

Of course, your mileage may vary. If possible, visit a local store to try out a mouse before you buy. I always get mine from Amazon so I have the option of returning if I don't like it, since I don't have anywhere near me to try out most mice.
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Originally Posted by metal571 View Post

Do you play first person shooters? Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
If so, you'll want the Rival. Laser mice have some positive accel depending on movement speed. I have a Sensei right now and although ultimately comfortable, the acceleration is really annoying me and thus I actually have a Rival on the way to me. If you can wait a few days I should be able to comment more on it by the end of the week, or some other members will chime in before me.
The NAOS is very comfortable, but I would reach for the NAOS 7000. Very comfortable but a better sensor (same as the Rival's optical, the 3310).

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Originally Posted by buffsportsman View Post

I've heard good things about the Mionix, though I really haven't heard a lot about it. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
I've heard much more about the Rival, and from what I've personally gathered from the [Official] Rival thread was it's a good mouse, but a bit costly for what it is. Maybe if the price drops a little further it'll be a great buy. The SteelSeries Sensei RAW on the other hand, I personally used for a few months and really loved it (as long as you get the RAW matte version IMO).

I'm currently using a Roccat Kone XTD, but I've been having issues where the mouse won't turn on when my computer does. I contacted support and got a response telling me I should remove the SteelSeries drivers from my Sensei, so I'll see how that works. If that fixes my mouse problems, I would 1000% recommend the Kone XTD due to its perfect shape, weight, texture, and customizable buttons/LEDs.

Of course, your mileage may vary. If possible, visit a local store to try out a mouse before you buy. I always get mine from Amazon so I have the option of returning if I don't like it, since I don't have anywhere near me to try out most mice.

Really the only PC game I play currently is BF3 will move to BF4 if they ever get their stuff figured out. I do like the rival and it seems like a very nice mouse. I really only considered the NAOS because it was on sale haha.

I am going to make a run up to Micro Center on lunch today to see if they might have anything there that I can play with and go from there. From what I have read so far I think I will end up going with the Rival though, seems like a quality mouse.

Do mice like the rival prefer to be used on a hard surface or just a nice cloth mat?

Thanks for all of the info!
post #7 of 16
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Originally Posted by metal571 View Post

The RAW has acceleration (ADNS-9500) and so does the XTD (ADNS-9800). The OP is looking for a mouse without acceleration, so neither of those are viable options.

Am I missing something about the OP here? I thought it was pretty clear to me lol

While the Sensei does have acceleration, I really don't ever notice it compared to other mice. Also, the Kone XTD has options to turn off acceleration in the drivers for the mouse, which do actually turn off acceleration.
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Really the only PC game I play currently is BF3 will move to BF4 if they ever get their stuff figured out. I do like the rival and it seems like a very nice mouse. I really only considered the NAOS because it was on sale haha.

I am going to make a run up to Micro Center on lunch today to see if they might have anything there that I can play with and go from there. From what I have read so far I think I will end up going with the Rival though, seems like a quality mouse.

Do mice like the rival prefer to be used on a hard surface or just a nice cloth mat?

Thanks for all of the info!

The Rival should work on both. My 3090 mouse, the G400, works just as well on my Corsair MM400 as on my QcK+ and Goliathus Alpha Control. The 3310 is related to the 3090 if I'm not mistaken, so it should work fine. I have a Propus 380 on the way that I hope to make my primary mouse mat with the Rival, so hopefully it does work well on hard mats for my sake as well lol
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While the Sensei does have acceleration, I really don't ever notice it compared to other mice. Also, the Kone XTD has options to turn off acceleration in the drivers for the mouse, which do actually turn off acceleration.

The Kone XTD's drivers have nothing to do with it...it's a hardware fault. You could prove me wrong though if you can flick super fast to the right in an FPS, then return slowly to the same spot on your mouse pad. Every time I do that with a 9500 or 9800 mouse, I end up to the right of the spot that I started at to varying degrees. I will admit from owning the Sensei for a while now that the acceleration is tolerable if and only if you are using a hard surface. It's really, really annoying on cloth. I am a low senser (60cm/360) so I notice the accel more on the faster flickshots, and that's when I need 1:1 the most...so it bothers me more than it might bother some people.
Edited by metal571 - 1/14/14 at 8:34am
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post #9 of 16
From my personal experience trying to replace a failing Deathadder myself, just buy another Deathadder. I tried Zowie EC, Steelseries Sensei, Roccat Kone, Logitech G400 and G500. Nothing felt quite as precise so I ended up returning or selling all of them, and buying another Deathadder.
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Originally Posted by metal571 View Post

The Rival should work on both. My 3090 mouse, the G400, works just as well on my Corsair MM400 as on my QcK+ and Goliathus Alpha Control. The 3310 is related to the 3090 if I'm not mistaken, so it should work fine. I have a Propus 380 on the way that I hope to make my primary mouse mat with the Rival, so hopefully it does work well on hard mats for my sake as well lol.

Quote:
Originally Posted by groundzero9 View Post

From my personal experience trying to replace a failing Deathadder myself, just buy another Deathadder. I tried Zowie EC, Steelseries Sensei, Roccat Kone, Logitech G400 and G500. Nothing felt quite as precise so I ended up returning or selling all of them, and buying another Deathadder.

Right now I have the Rocketfish hard gaming mouse pad, been looking for something different though. Hopefully it does work well on the hard surface!

I was never really that much of a Deathadder fan, it kind of hurt my hand after extended uses and for the most part it felt cheap to me. I have been wanting a new mouse for awhile, but this finally gives me a reason to get a new one!
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