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Hey guys I'm new to this site and new at building PCs. I recently got a Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl and for the most part just finished my first build. Anyways, I'm not planning on putting this ship under water, I'm just going to let it use air. However, I'm having a bit of trouble deciding how many I should use, which fans should I get/use, and which ones should be intake/outtake. Currently, I'm thinking two front fans intake, one rear outtake, and one/two top outtake. Though wouldn't the top and rear outtake be conflicting each other?

Here's the build I have:

AMD FX-8320 3.5GHz 8-Core Processor
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
Asus M5A99X EVO R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard
G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory
Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
Gigabyte GeForce GTX 770 2GB
Antec HCG 620W
post #2 of 16
Phanteks f140sp/xp, will match perfect with the white theme of fractal.
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Each fan port you open on the case will allow more sound out -- so how important is silence vs. cooling for you? The R4 can be a very quiet box if you leave it closed.

Also, do you have a windowed panel or the solid panel with a fan spot?

I tried pretty much every fan configuration in my R4 -- adding a second intake in the front isn't much use to temps and I'd only do that if you had a big array of drives to cool. Opening up the top ports for more intake doesn't help much unless your CPU cooler needs more cool air.

The biggest drop for GPU temps is if you have a solid panel and open up the port that blows directly from the panel to the GPU.
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Each fan port you open on the case will allow more sound out -- so how important is silence vs. cooling for you? The R4 can be a very quiet box if you leave it closed.

Also, do you have a windowed panel or the solid panel with a fan spot?

I tried pretty much every fan configuration in my R4 -- adding a second intake in the front isn't much use to temps and I'd only do that if you had a big array of drives to cool. Opening up the top ports for more intake doesn't help much unless your CPU cooler needs more cool air.

The biggest drop for GPU temps is if you have a solid panel and open up the port that blows directly from the panel to the GPU.


I'm ok with noise, it doesn't bother me. I prefer better cooling, even if at the cost of having more noise. I have a solid panel with a fan spot. Which fan configuration would you say would be the most efficient for cooling with 3 to 4 fans?
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I'm ok with noise, it doesn't bother me. I prefer better cooling, even if at the cost of having more noise. I have a solid panel with a fan spot. Which fan configuration would you say would be the most efficient for cooling with 3 to 4 fans?

If you're OK with more noise and more fans, load that sucker up. I'd definitely put one blowing cool air onto the GPU from the panel spot. Then I'd do one of the top spots above the CPU and add another in the front 140 slot just for more flow.

You only get 3 fan headers from the switch fan controller in the case so you can put 3 of them on there and then the others will have to go to the motherboard for software control or put them all on a separate fan controller.

So that is 5 fans:

- 2 in the front, intake
- 1 in the side panel, intake
- 1 in one top slot, intake
- 1 in the back, exhaust

Very positive pressure. You can add one more in the top slot, intake, and then another in the bottom slot as exhaust for 7 fans total if you really want to go all out.

The Fractal fans are actually good fans if you want to get more of those and have them all matching. Otherwise I really like the be quiet! 140s -- good airflow and you could put all 7 in and hardly notice them at 1000rpm.
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If you're OK with more noise and more fans, load that sucker up. I'd definitely put one blowing cool air onto the GPU from the panel spot. Then I'd do one of the top spots above the CPU and add another in the front 140 slot just for more flow.

You only get 3 fan headers from the switch fan controller in the case so you can put 3 of them on there and then the others will have to go to the motherboard for software control or put them all on a separate fan controller.

So that is 5 fans:

- 2 in the front, intake
- 1 in the side panel, intake
- 1 in one top slot, intake
- 1 in the back, exhaust

Very positive pressure. You can add one more in the top slot, intake, and then another in the bottom slot as exhaust for 7 fans total if you really want to go all out.

The Fractal fans are actually good fans if you want to get more of those and have them all matching. Otherwise I really like the be quiet! 140s -- good airflow and you could put all 7 in and hardly notice them at 1000rpm.

Neat. What fans would you recommend? Also, why positive pressure? Is it better for cooling than negative pressure?
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Neat. What fans would you recommend? Also, why positive pressure? Is it better for cooling than negative pressure?

I like: http://products.ncix.com/detail/be-quiet-silent-wings-2-140mm-1000rpm-60-4cfm-15-8dba-cooling-fan-2e-80364.htm

They are expensive but come with great mounting kits and are silent. The fans that come with the case by Fractal are also good, you could get more of those and keep everything matching.... Also you'll get better fan recommendations in the big fan thread:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1321074/tator-tots-big-quiet-120mm-140mm-fan-round-up

Positive pressure means you can put filters on the fans and catch the dust in one spot vs. negative pressure.
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My suggestion is all PWM cooler or radiator fans. Use 2x front & 1x bottom intake with 1x back & 1x ttop back vent open. Control them all with PWM signal as explained in sig link. Raise case 30-40mm with taller feet or a castor base (I prefer castor bases).
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I like: http://products.ncix.com/detail/be-quiet-silent-wings-2-140mm-1000rpm-60-4cfm-15-8dba-cooling-fan-2e-80364.htm

They are expensive but come with great mounting kits and are silent. The fans that come with the case by Fractal are also good, you could get more of those and keep everything matching.... Also you'll get better fan recommendations in the big fan thread:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1321074/tator-tots-big-quiet-120mm-140mm-fan-round-up

Positive pressure means you can put filters on the fans and catch the dust in one spot vs. negative pressure.
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I like: http://products.ncix.com/detail/be-quiet-silent-wings-2-140mm-1000rpm-60-4cfm-15-8dba-cooling-fan-2e-80364.htm

They are expensive but come with great mounting kits and are silent. The fans that come with the case by Fractal are also good, you could get more of those and keep everything matching.... Also you'll get better fan recommendations in the big fan thread:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1321074/tator-tots-big-quiet-120mm-140mm-fan-round-up

Positive pressure means you can put filters on the fans and catch the dust in one spot vs. negative pressure.

Ah I see. I heard somewhere that negative pressure is better in the long run, as in having more exhaust than intake fans. Or does it depend on if you want dust or not?
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Ah I see. I heard somewhere that negative pressure is better in the long run, as in having more exhaust than intake fans. Or does it depend on if you want dust or not?

This thread has a ton of good info:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1207625/positive-or-negative-pressure-help-me-please/0_50

I personally go with positive.
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