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Since they are toying with monopolies does that mean I can pay them with monopoly money? All I can see coming from this is HUGE lawsuits from the companies about to get pushed out (assuming no appeal is granted/won) All media services that don't also provide internet services will be lining up for anti-trust lawsuits.
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My biggest concern is that internet service could be chopped up and sold like TV cable packages. I seriously, seriously hope that never happens, I have very limited options for internet.
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It actually doesn't because the FCC is appealing. See the end of the article. Thx.

That's also not what Mr. Tatel, actually said:
Basically when you dumb down the legal jargon it's rather simple: Your definitions are vague and incorrect.

This would be like my asking you: Where is the earth? And you reply "Under me".

You're not wrong but, you're extremely vague.

The same applies here, the internet has grown while the FCC's definition and/or rules for those definitions have stagnated.

This is actually the FCC's fault...Nobody else's. -- Just the Gov't doing what the Gov't does best --> Screwing up.

I'm looking at the case PDF, and I don't see anywhere that says the reasoning is because vague rules. It says because Broadband Providers aren't confined as a "Common Carrier," (which was based off a 2005 case) then the FCC regulation rules do not apply, and as such, cannot enforce that portion of the act.
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Once again. The American justice system sides with the highest bidder... sigh.

Don't you know how Appeals Court works? They aren't necessarily challenging the legitimacy of the FCC's regulations
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Don't you know how Appeals Court works? They aren't necessarily challenging the legitimacy of the FCC's regulations

Lets hope you are right.
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Lets hope you are right.

He is. The courts agree that not having net neutrality is a problem. The issue is that the former FCC chair decided to put broadband in it's own category as a "single, integrated information service,” making it immune to regulation. In the end, the ghost of Chairman's past came to bite the FCC in the ass. The silver lining in this (other than a potential appeal) is that Verizon is still required to inform consumers if/when they are blocking services, so it's not going to be a knife stab in the dark.
Edited by Athrun Zala - 1/14/14 at 1:06pm
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Before all the gloom and doom from people; this will be appealed and settled, it isn't the end of the world yet.
    
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Considering it was a major part of Obama's campaign, I practically guarantee you they're appealing.

Verizon's stock is already starting to tank after the announcement...Which is interesting considering they're the wolves...But, it is what it is.

Above and beyond that, the reason I provided is why it was actually thrown out...Something which, most people will completely ignore: The FCC's guidelines are outdated. In an attempt to overhaul those guidelines, they attached stipulations to existing regulations. Those regulations do NOT apply for the web in it's current state.

The web has evolved FAR BEYOND the FCC's original regulations.

So once again, this is 100% the fault of the FCC not properly updating and/or regulating their own rules.

How do you expect net neutrality in a world where the FCC's definition of the internet is completely based on Dial-Up? -- You don't.

I bet you they overhaul the guidelines/regulations and once CLEAR DEFINITIONS are established, they challenge Verizon once again...Considering the FCC is a Gov't agency, it wouldn't be very hard to change their regulations within the period of an appeal...Although, once again, it is the Gov't.

The Supreme Court is not obligated to grant cert, though I expect they would in this matter.
    
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The Supreme Court is not obligated to grant cert, though I expect they would in this matter.

too bad the current supreme court is packed with corporate tools
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My biggest concern is that internet service could be chopped up and sold like TV cable packages. I seriously, seriously hope that never happens, I have very limited options for internet.

That's exactly what's GOING to happen, and people will not realize it until it actually does happen.

By then it would be a little too late...

We're heading there, it's only a matter of time. The Internet, will not stay free forever, not with the way things have been going in the recent years.
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